New post on My Kerry Ancestors
Kerry Ancestors – Conflicting Info or Fake News?
by Kay Caball
'Fake News' , 'alternative facts', conflicting genealogical evidence, whatever title you use, how do you apply it when researching your Kerry ancestors? In other words, what 'facts' can you believe in?
Mendelsohn has performed searches on
When you do genealogy, you’re constantly confronted with the reality of our immigrant past,” Mendelsohn told JTA. “It appears from some of the attitudes and stances that people are taking publicly that they’re forgetting that.”
In Miller’s case, Mendelsohn tracked down his great-grandmother’s line item in the 1910 census. The entry noted that four years after arriving in the United States, she spoke only Yiddish, not English.
Mendelsohn has performed similar searches for the immigrant forbears of a handful of President Donald Trump’s advisers and supporters, seeking hard data to support the idea that America is a nation of immigrants. She’s found out about Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s great-great-grandfather, conservative pundit Tomi Lahren’s great-great-grandfather (who forged his immigration papers, no less) and U.S. Rep. Steve King’s grandmother, who arrived in the United States from Germany at age 4. (“We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies,” the Iowa Republican tweeted in March.)
On Jan. 9, Dan Scavino, the White House director of social media, called for an end to “chain migration,” which refers to immigrants bringing their relatives to live in the United States. But Mendelsohn discovered that the practice had brought Scavino’s great-grandfather, Gildo, to the country.
“So Dan. Let’s say Victor Scavino arrives from Canelli, Italy, in 1904, then brother Hector in 1905, brother Gildo in 1912, sister Esther in 1913, & sister Clotilde and their father Giuseppe in 1916, and they live together in NY,” Mendelsohn tweeted, listing his family members. “Do you think that would count as chain migration?”
In recent days, with Congress and the White House locked in a bitter battle over a federal funding bill and the children of undocumented immigrants, Mendelsohn published her research in Politico, was interviewed on MSNBC and was cited in Breitbart News.
Miller did not respond to a JTA request for comment. But he says the reforms he’s advocating would preserve blue-collar jobs for American workers while making sure the people who arrive on America’s shores will contribute to the country.
“We want to have an immigration system that takes care of the people who are coming here and the people who are already living here by having standards, by having a real clear requirement that you should be able to support yourself financially, by making sure that employers can pay a living wage,” he said at the August news conference.
Mendelsohn, a freelance journalist from Baltimore, has been an amateur genealogist for years, mostly focusing on her own family, friends and adoptees seeking their biological parents. She calls her own family’s genealogy a “classic Eastern European Jewish immigrant story,” and disputes the idea that people need to have skills in order to be welcomed into the United States.
Paddy is going
The field work diaries of Conrad Arensberg and Solon Kimball in Clare 1930-36; stories for the present?
Dr Anne Byrne of NUI Galway will tell the story of the Harvard anthropologists Conrad Arensberg and Solon Kimball who came to Ireland in the 1930s to study rural communities in County Clare.
Writing about the Survey in 2001, Anne received a gift of five original social anthropology field work diaries. Sharing the gift again, she invites re/readings and new conversations on the unpublished diaries and archives querying their contemporary relevance.
Extracts from the diaries on farm and family life will be examined in this talk and you are invited to contribute your thoughts and ideas as we listen to the first hand observations of rural family life and farm work in Ireland in the 1930s.
The diaries and survey letters record the original voices of men, women, farm families, shopkeepers, priests, publicans and politicians with whom the anthropologists conferred. Arensberg’s diaries of his time in west Clare, namely Luogh, record the preoccupations of people, their work on the land, rearing, selling and buying cattle, conventions of marriage and inheritance, the dominance of religion and politics in conversation, the scarcity of money and the significance of ‘influence’ for procuring work.
Anne Byrne is a sociologist in NUI Galway (Political Science and Sociology) interested in how biographical stories and narratives of the past and present illuminate everyday struggles and moments of resilience in ordinary lives. With CLASP press in Clare Library, in 2001 she and Ricca Edmondson and Tony Varley, published a long essay on ‘Arensberg and Kimball and Anthropological Research in Ireland’ as part of the republication of the facsimile third edition of Family and Community in Ireland. Recent socio-biographical publications include with Colm Byrne, 2017, ‘Family Stories and Secret Keepers: Who is Maíre Bastable?’ in Sara Anne Buckley and Pat Dolan (eds) Family Histories of the Irish Revolution, Four Courts Press; 2017, ‘Epistolary research relations: correspondences in anthropological research - Arensberg, Kimball and the Harvard-Irish Survey 1930- 1936’ in O’Giollain, D. (ed), Irish Ethnologies, Notre Dame University Press; 2014, ‘Single Women in Story and Society’ In Inglis, T. (ed) Are the Irish Different? Manchester University Press; with Tanya Kovacic, 2014, ‘Those Letters Keep Me Going: tracing resilience processes in US soldier to sweet heart war correspondences, 1942-1945’ in Reid, H., and West, L., (eds) Constructing narratives of continuity and change: a transdisciplinary approach to researching learning lives, Routledge.
KDHS lectures are free to members, EUR5 for non-members. New members are welcome. The annual membership fee (July-June) is EUR20.
The Catholic Press (Sydney, NSW : 1895 - 1942) Thu 12 Dec 1907 Page 11
The Irish in Australia: The Story of Their Great Achievements.
By P. S, Cleary.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 – 1957) Fri 20 Aug 1875 Page 4
Dr. P. MOLONEY, a young practitioner, who has only recently, comparatively speaking, taken his degree, heads the poll, while two physicians of high standing and long practice, like Drs.
JAS. ROBERTSON and J. B. MOTHERWELL, occupy the second and third places respectively. We must not be understood as wishing to disparage Dr. MOLONEY, who is a gentleman of ability
and promise, with an honourable and prosperous career before him,
John J Broderick
Birth 22 NOV 1865 • Coolbeha, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland
Death 9 AUG 1939 • Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
Parents Michael Broderick 1829–1884, Mary Anne Hickey 1837–1911
A FAMOUS KERRYMAN.
The Sacred Heart Review, Volume 39, Number 22, 23 May 1908
Who would have thought, writes Dr. J. C. McWalter in the Dublin Leader, that, in the seventeenth century, a Catholic Kerryman could have become a Professor at Oxford and Cambridge, a Fellow of the Royal Society, and Chief Physician to the King of Poland Yet, this is the true romantic history of Bernard Connor (1666-1698), as told in the lately published and fascinating history of Dr. John Knott—himself one of the few survivors of that series of scholarly physicians who made the Dublin school famous. Now, that the question of Universities is in the air, it is of added interest to hear the sympathetic account of a cultured Protestant like Dr. Knott of his hero, of whom he says that—" being of the Popish religion, he was not educated regularly in the grammar schools and university of that island ; nevertheless, he had all proper learning given him"; and who managed to find his way to the University of Montpellier at the age of twenty, where he passed through a brilliant medical curriculum ; thence, to Rheims, where he graduated as Doctor of Physic ; thence to Paris, where he rapidly distinguished himself in the practise of the profession of his choice; more below.
The Sacred Heart Review, Volume 43, Number 24, 4 June 1910
The Right Rev. Bishop Fallon, of the diocese of London, Ont., has lost no time in beginning the strenuous life of an ordinary of a large diocese. Bishop Fallon, like many other prelates, has made it his duty to encourage temperance, and to each candidate confirmed he gives the total abstinence pledge until the age of twenty-one years; at the same time wisely exhorting the boys to live temperate lives, as he explains to them the evils of intemperance.
The Sacred Heart Review, Volume 57, Number 13, 10 March 1917
Death of Judge Fallon March 6 1917 age 79, born Galway. (Snippet of article)
He could be very severe when the occasion demanded, as when delinquent children were brought before him. "Bring their parents into court," he would command, "I will try to deal with the parents in a way they will remember." To wife-beaters he always expressed his regret that he could not sentence them to the whipping-post, "the only punishment for men like you," he would say. Judge Fallon was a staunch Catholic, and a citizen who held the respect of all who knew him. In his closing years he still studied and read. About two years ago the Judge translated from the French of the Viscount de Melun the "Life of Sister Rosalie" of the Sisters of Charity, a story of very great interest. The Judge's own daughter, a member of the same community, died at the Mother-House, Paris, while the book was on the press. Judge Fallon is survived by two daughters, Miss Euphemia M. Fallon, and Mrs. C. M. Cavanagh, of Dorchester, Mass.
St. Patrick’s Day in Paris. THE DESCENDANTS OF THE IRISH BRIGADES.
Pilot, Volume 37, Number 16, 18 April 1874
Paris, March 18, 1871. If anything were necessary to prove how lasting the love of country is in the human heart, the fact that centuries after their fathers had left their country, men of Irish descent still meet and celebrate the national fete in foreign lands which have been their homes since their birth, would remove all doubt on the subject. For the last century, at least, these dinners, though sometimes interrupted by great events, have taken place in the French capital. The one of yesterday is the last celebrated by those anciens Irlandais , and was not the least interesting of them. A few years ago the number of those present was larger; for death has swept away many of the former guests. Count O’Donnell, Councillor of State, Count August Dillon, Mr. MacCartan, Rev. Mr. O’Donnell, Rev. Mr. MacArdle, Lieut. MacDermott, etc., are no more, and war has thinned the little bataillon sacre. Age, too, and illness, or some unexpected obstacle or important business, kept a few away from their countrymen, and letters expressing regret at not being able to assist at the dinner were received from the following worthy descendants of heroic ancestors.
Pilot, Volume 37, Number II, 14 March 1874
LIMERICK. Of James Maloney, a native of Newcastle West, county Limerick, who came to this country about the year 1856 or ’57, and landed In New York; he lived In Washington street of said city. Information of him, or family, will be received by his nephew, Dennis Maloney, No. 2 Providence street, Worcester, Mass.
The Sacred Heart Review, Volume 1, Number 16, 20 April 1895
GRIFFIN: "Our Irish Letter" asks for a short sketch of Gerald Griffin, a request with which the writer is but too happy to comply. He was born in Limerick, Dec. 10, 1803, where his father had a large brewery, but the business not being a successful venture the family moved to Fairy Lawn near Glin, some thirty miles from the city of the Violated Treaty, and after a few years residence, the parents finally emigrated to America. Gerald, however, who was intended for the medical profession, remained with his brother Doctor Griffin who lived at Adare. His two sisters also remained in Ireland and in company with them he spent much of his time in rambling through the demesne of Lord Dunraven— fishing in the Magne, or watching its waters glide whisperingly along by the time-worn walls of the old castles and romantic ruins of that historic locality. Poetry was his first and greatest inspiration, (See more below)
The Sacred Heart Review, Volume 12, Number 8, 14 July 1894
FUNDS: Mr. Justin McCarthy the Irish Parliamentary Fund is rapidly swelling to respectable dimensions, so quickly indeed, as to remind one of the good old Land League days when the Irish representatives were a unit fighting for the sturdy Irish farmers against their heartless landlords and rack rents. The following list of subscriptions to the fund has been published by its trustees
100 Years of Irish Kenya Relations
I am lucky to know the chairperson of the Irish Kenya Society. He is Jack O'Regan formerly of Ballyheigue and now living, working and raising a family in Kenya.
On September 22 2017, Culture Night, Go Kerry and Jack organised a night of celebration of a very different part of our unique culture.... our reaching out to other nations and the influence Irish people have had in far flung corners of the world.
Limerick Evening Post and Clare Sentinel
1 June 1830
Distressed Weavers of Limerick
Of the Committee for the Relief and Employment of the Weavers of the City of Limerick.
The arrangements stated in the Report published in the Post and Sentinel of the 20th ult. have been since carried into effect; and the exceptions then entertained by the Committee have, they are gratified to announce, been satisfactorily attained.
Letter from Van Dieman's Land
Freeman's Journal — 10 February 1835
The following are extracts from a letter, written nearly twelve months since, in Van Dieman's Land, and lately received by a gentleman in Kilkenny, who has been kind enough to permit us to publish them, The letter is from a man of the strictest probity:— Kilkenny Journal
"I am most happy, as an opportunity offers for London, to send you an account of this d____d country; and I hope you'll make it known to all persons who purpose to emigrate to those colonies (which you ands I were led to think were the best) that Ireland bad as it is, is better than here. —
There is neither employment for free people, or pity for the affected, the hearts of all are callous to every feeling save that of avarice. I have been from one extremity of the colony to the other, and in no part of it could I obtain anything like comfort, or do I see for any one. If it were not for a few pounds which remained to me after the expense of our voyage, &c., I should before now die of want. There is no employment for persons of any calling whatever. This country is inhabited by persons who have been transported for the last 30 years; and they have land granted them on their freedom, but their morals are quite depraved. Each person in town and country that holds property of any description are allowed prisoners to do their work, and if they do not do it, complaint is made, and they are cruelly lashed every day till they give full satisfaction to their master. I wish it was generally known in Ireland by the unfortunate and misguided portion of my countrymen, how transports are dealt with here; and I am sure they would commit no offence to subject them to transportation. I assure you in the most positive manner, it would be a greater mercy to hang them at home than send them here. I suppose you know the order of things as regards the seasons here; to-day the sun is much hotter than it is with you in June. Now is the commencement of the Autumn season— we have not had any rain since our arrival; but the weather has been very hot. The climate is very healthy, and what very extraordinary, very changeable. We never had better health. We were sixteen weeks on our voyage, an had no accident. I hope I shall some day have money enough to pay our passage from this unchristian land; for although there are Protestant, Catholic, and Methodist places of worship, very few frequent them. The country is hilly and mountainous, and I have not as yet seen any thing like a good crop of corn. The markets are as follows:—Bacon1s per pound, beef and mutton 6d per pound, Bread 10d for 4 pound, Potatoes, 3d per pound, and all other vegetables very dear. I have purchased a few acres of ground for seven years. I pay 80l. a-year for two rooms without furniture.
Respects for, &c. &c.
Launceston, 20th Feb. 1834
© Nick Reddan 2002
Taken from Ancestry.com
Name Birth Death
Kenealy, Michael Sr
1829 - County Cork, Ireland 16 August 1903 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA
Kenealy, Michael F Jr
Aug 1859 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA 14 Jul 1915 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA
abt 1906 - Illinois -
Kenealy, Nellie V
Jan 1882 - Maryland -
abt 1860 Baltimore City, Maryland, USA
Jan 1843 - Ireland 13 Oct 1901 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Dec 1891 - Illinois -
Kenealy, William Edward
12 Nov 1890 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA 21 May 1976
Kenealy, William Henry
21 Sep 1862 - Whitman, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA 14 Sep 1954 - Los Angeles
Kenealy, William J
28 Jul 1854 - New York, USA 13 Apr 1910 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA
Kenealy, William Joseph
5 May 1891 - Maryland 2 Jan 1956
Kennedy, Dr. Edward A
abt 1881 - Vermont bef 1949 - USA
May 1826 - Ireland 20 Jun 1911 - Cook, Illinois, United States
Kennedy, Eunice V R
abt 1917 - Massachusetts -
Kennedy, M Evona
abt 1914 - Massachusetts -
Kennedy, Marie Antoinette
Abt 1918 - Great Barrington MA abt 2001 - Wash DC
Kennedy, Mary L
abt 1886 - Canada -
Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1780 - Kerry, Ireland Kerry, Ireland
Ballyegan, Ballybunion, Kerry, Ireland Ireland
18 Jul 1880 - Dromin, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
Kennelly, Annette Grace
27 Jul 1907 - Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA 5 Jun 1986 - Santa Clara, Santa Clara, California, USA
02 May 1846 - Coolnaleen Cross Roads, Kerry, Ireland -
30 Jul 1880 - Kerry, Ireland -
6 Jan 1876 - Kerry, Ireland -
1885 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland, -
11 Nov 1872 - Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
1 May 1876 - Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1876 - Kerry, Ireland -
27 Sep 1874 - Dromin, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1850 - Greenville, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1810 - Ballyegan, Ballybunion, Kerry, Ireland Mar 1885 - Toureen, Duagh, County Kerry, Ireland
16 Mar 1883 - Cook, Illinois, United States -
Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1809 - Kerry, Ireland -
17 Nov 1856 - Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
1816 - Kerry, Ireland -
Oct 1875 - Illinois -
1920 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland 15 Mar 1957 - County Cork, Ireland
1888 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland, 17 Nov 1981
abt 1835 - Duagh, Kerry, Ireland Duagh, Kerry, Ireland
1887 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland, -
14 Aug 1887 - Dromin, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1872 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois 2 Jul 1892 - Cook, Illinois, United States
abt 1877 -
abt 1879 - Illinois -
abt 1845 - Coolnaleen Cross Roads, Kerry, Ireland 12 Nov 1928 - Wilmerding, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA
abt 1858 - Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
May 1860 - Ireland -
Moybella, Ballybunion, Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1824 - Listowel, Kerry, Ireland 23 Apr 1891 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
1883 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland 25 Jul 1950
1844 - Kerry, Ireland -
Kennelly, Jeremiah Alouisus
30 Nov 1882 - Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA 25 May 1942 - Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA
Kennelly, Jeremiah E
abt 1853 - Ballylongford, County Kerry, Ireland 8 May 1891 - Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA
26 Mar 1852 - Coolaclarig, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
12 Nov 1871 - Dromin, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
7 Mar 1858 - Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1886 - Ireland -
20 Jun 1877 - Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1806 - Kerry, Ireland -
Kennelly, John Howard
17 Feb 1909 - Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA 15 May 1978 - San Diego, San Diego County, California, USA
Kennelly, John Joseph
4 Jan 1885 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois 27 Jan 1934 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois
abt 1886 -
abt 1875 - Kerry, Ireland -
1821 - Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1885 - Dromin, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1842 - Kerry, Ireland 02 Feb 1927 - Toureen, Duagh, Kerry, Ireland
abt 1784 - Kerry, Ireland 1870 - Kerry, Ireland
abt 1895 - Pennsylvania -
12 Sep 1870 - Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1838 - Dromin, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
Kennelly, Martin Henry
11 Aug 1887 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA 29 Nov 1961 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
Kennelly, Martin Robert
26 Nov 1922 - Cook, Illinois, United States 6 Aug 1944 - France
abt 1886 - Ireland -
abt 1847 - Coolaclarig, Kerry, Ireland Kerry, Ireland
12 Jun 1841 - Coolnaleen, Cross Roads, Kerry, Ireland -
1890 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland, -
27 Sep 1878 - Kerry, Ireland -
29 Apr 1888 - Coolaclarig, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
31 May 1887 - Ireland 10 Sep 1926 - Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Kennelly, Mary E.
29 May 1878 - Boston, Mass 3 May 1935 - Tonica, LaSalle, Illinois
Kennelly, Mary Rose
Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland 7 May 2014 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland
abt 1883 - Coolaclarig, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
17 Aug 1859 - Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
abt 1846 - Coolaclarig, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland bef 1901 - Kerry, Ireland
abt 1960 26 Apr 2005 - Nenagh, Co. Tipperary, Ireland
abt 1884 - Dromin, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland
Name Birth Death
5 Feb 1873 - Dromin, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
Jan 1843 - Ireland 15 Oct 1901 - 38 Woodlawn Avenue Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
1847 - Kerry, Ireland -
6 April 1843 - Ireland 13 Oct 1901 - 38 Woodlawn Avenue Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
1845 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland 1912 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland
abt 1900 - Pennsylvania -
Kerry, Ireland -
Kennelly, Patrick J.
abt 1915 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland 17 Feb 2005 - Tralee, County Kerry, Ireland
1916 - Gortdromagowna, Knockanure, Kerry, Ireland 24 May 1989 - County Cork, Ireland
Kerry, Ireland -
Kennelly, Thomas Joseph
28 Oct 1926 - Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA 19 Apr 1985 - Cook, Illinois, United States
abt 1820 - Coolaclarig, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland Kerry, Ireland
12 Feb 1880 - Coolaclarig, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
Kennelly, Timothy A
29 Jul 1882 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois Cook, Illinois, United States
Kerry, Ireland -
Kerry, Ireland -
12 Nov 1871 - Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
29 Oct 1882 - Dromin, Listowel, Kerry, Ireland -
Kennelly, William Francis
1 Jan 1874 - Chicago, Ill 28 Dec 1940 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Kennelly, William Francis
8 Feb 1917 - Cook, Illinois, United States 8 Jan 1999 - Kirkland, King, Washington, USA -
Feb 1853 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA 21 Feb 1927 - Baltimore, Md, USA
15 Mar 1897 - Illinois 30 Mar 1973 - Delavan, Walworth, Wisconsin, United States
1867 1896 - Ohio
1809 - Ireland 27 Aug 1884 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio USA
Dec 1897 - Maryland -
Kenealy, Ellen M.
abt 1830 - Ireland 9 Feb 1904 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA
abt 1909 - Illinois 16 Dec 2006 - Alhambra, Los Angeles, California, United States
abt 1915 - Illinois -
abt 1902 - Illinois -
Sep 1899 - Illinois 13 Jan 1992
abt 1912 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States -
Kenealy, James P
1892 1919 - Ohio
abt 1848 - Ireland -
Jul 1893 - Illinois 15 Apr 1966 - Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
1893 1913 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
Kenealy, John Joseph
13 Mar 1893 - Baltimore, MD -
abt 1910 - Illinois 11 May 1978 - Cook, Illinois, United States
Kenealy, Julia A
5 Dec 1884 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA 15 April 1958 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA
Jun 1898 - Illinois 26 Aug 1994 - Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States
Kenealy, Margaret Angela
2 Jan 1888 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA 15 May 1915 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA
Jan 1890 - Illinois -
Kenealy, Mary Ellen
Mar 1861 - Maryland 7 Oct 1925 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA
Kenealy, Mary J
19 Mar 1879 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA 14 July 1947 - Baltimore City, Maryland, USA
Kenealy, Mary J
abt 1927 - Maryland 2011
Launch of the Kerry Girls: Emigration & The Earl Grey Scheme
by kay Moloney
Michael Lynch, Kerry County Archivist, on behalf of Writers Week, was the MC. Jimmy Moloney, who was performing his last duty as Mayor of Listowel, Jimmy did officiate at this last event which just happened to be the launch of his aunt's book. Minister Deenihan then spoke on his work with the National Famine Commemoration Committee and in particular he mentioned his visit to Hyde Park Barracks in Sydney last August for the International Famine Commemoration, where the Earl Grey Girls were honoured and where he met a number of their descendants.
remember and honour the 117 girls from County Kerry who were victims of the Famine, but who were never given any recognition of even their very existence until this day.
SHINE: Pat Shine lived one mile from Tarbert, was born at Kilbaha, he was a school teacher and settled at Carhoona, Tarbert in 1892. His grandfathers name was Con Shine from Co Limerick and he came to Walls farm at Kilbaha, while his two brothers settled at Direen, Athea. Old Con Shine had three sons Dan father of Pat Shine the teacher, John and Con. Dan Shine had four sons, Con who lives at Kilbaha in the Old farm where his grandfather Con settled. John deceased before 1906 had farm at Ahanagran, Ballylongford. Pat the teacher and William who was superior of Presentation Order, Cork.
Pat C Shine , Lawyer Spokane Washington wrote letter 1907 describing his relationship with Direen Shine Family. His people lived at a farm in Direen. His father had six brothers , John a village shopkeeper, Athea. Dan and Con died London Constabulary. Barth and Frank , lawyers in Dublin, died young. Edmund went to America and his son John E Shine, General Passenger and Ticket Agent of the S.P., Kansas City, MO. Pat Shine above had a sister Kathleen in Brooklyn, NY., she made a tour of Killarney and district c1906, she visited a grave of Owen Shine who died aged 117 years
Shine, Massachusetts; John P Shine M.D. living at Holyoake in 1906, his youngest sister Miss Hanoria Kennelly Shine , graduated from Trinity College, Washington , DC in 1909. His father Michael Shine was married to Helen Connors of Islandanny, he died c 1906, aged 96 years and his mother was Kelly, who were related to Burkes and Kellys of Listowel.
Elizabeth Shine a cousin from Barracks, Athea went to America and was mother of David Farragut.
Dawson Daily News Dec. 11th 1908. At Dawson Alaska.
Stampede to a new stream on the Stewart about 10 miles below the mouth of the Black Hills. Tom Shine, an old timer about Dawson is understood to be one of the stampeders , leading the rush .
History of the Shine family in Europe and America / by John W. Shine. Published 1917
Journalism was not something I chose for a career. It was chosen for me by Father Bill Cunningham, my English teacher at Sacred Heart Seminary High School in the 1960s. Having left the seminary in 1969, I needed a paying job – and not just volunteering my time at Focus: HOPE, the civil rights organization Cunningham, Eleanor Josaitis and Father Jerome Fraser founded in 1968.
Somehow, Fr. Cunningham decided I might make a good journalist and decided to introduce me to his friend, Free Press City Editor Neal Shine, in a unique way. Neal’s father, Patrick Shine, was gravely ill and confined to bed at Neal and Phyllis’ house in Grosse Pointe.
Fr. Cunningham offered to say Mass at the home to ease Patrick Shine’s final few days and he asked me to help by playing guitar at the “folk Mass,” then still considered a somewhat radical departure from traditional Catholic Masses. Since my guitar playing was poor, Cunningham played it safe by also bringing along a real musician, fellow seminarian John Jabro.
In 1978, Neal and Phyllis visited Moyvane, County Kerry, Ireland, from where his father emigrated and they met his aunt Nora and all his cousins. Since then they have visited Moyvane on several occasions with their extended family. Neal really loved Irish country life especially when he visited his father's birthplace in Kilbaha and watched the cows being milked. He could tell a good story, but was often in awe of cousin Jack's storytelling whether the stories were true or not! We have such fond memories of his and his family's visits to our grocery shop in Moyvane village and are so sorry to hear of his passing. Our thoughts and prayers are with Phyllis and all his family at this sad time. Our lives have been enriched from having the privilege of knowing Neal. May his dear soul rest in peace.
-- Don Shine
I met Mr. Shine when he was receiving radiation treatments for his Hodgkin's disease. I was one of the lucky and so very fortunate radiation therapists that had the pleasure to see, treat and get to know him over his six-week course of treatment. As many people have said before me, his name describes him perfectly. He was a bright spot in my day those six weeks.
The Intermountain Catholic. (Salt Lake City [Utah] ;) 1899-1920, June 06, 1903, Image 7
On May 6 1903 at the Church of Our
Lady of Dolours Drumcondra the
Rev G Stack of Cambuslang Glas
gow brother of the bride united in
marriage Joseph Devlin of Cookstown
and Clare Mary Stack youngest
daughter of the late Thomas Stack
H M Customs and Mrs Mary Stack
East Oregonian : E.O. (Pendleton, Umatilla Co., Or.) 1888-current, October 06, 1913, DAILY EVENING EDITION, Image 5
Image and text provided by University of Oregon Libraries; Eugene, OR
Persistent link: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88086023/1913-10-06/ed-1/seq-5/
J. D. STACK HAS
li A I I, K O A D SUPERINTENDENT
KNOWN HERE TO LEAVE
.Mr. stack Has iicvn Head of O.-W.
R. X. Division No. 1 Including
Territory From Portland to Seattle
and From Iortland to Vinntilla
Suivwonr Well Known,
j. I). Stack, superintendent of O.
W. R. & N. division No. 1 which cov
ers the territory from Portland to Se
attle and also from Portland to Uma
tilla has resigned his position and l
to take a position on an eastern road,
suld to bo In New York. Te Is to be
succeeded by B. E. Palmer, englneet
ot maintenance of way, Mr. Stack Is
well known here having been here
many times while serving as assist
ant general manager of the O.-W. R.
& N. lines, which position he held be
fore becoming superintendent of di
vision No. 1.
Mr. Palmer has been with the O.
W. 1U N, company for the last three
months, previously having been with
Twohy Brothers, railrond contractors.
His operating experience was gained
with the Northern raclfic, for which
road he served as division superin
tendent in Montana, at Spokane and
Mr. Stack has been a resident of
Fortland for three years and was pop
ular with his associates and subordi
nates alike. He kept in close touch
with the agents and other employes
out "on the line" and endeavored
constantly to bring about a higher j
standard of responsibility and efflcl- j
ency of the country station agent. He;
believes that a well-paid agent with
more power and authority than that j
which they now possess will bring j
about a better understanding and j
more amicable relations between thel
railroads and their patrons. Many
other officials share the same view.
It Is probable that Mr. Stack will re
turn to Portland for a few days be
fore finally taking up his new duties
In the East Before coming to Port
land he was with the Southern Pa
cific at Sacramento.
From: "Margaret & Randy" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: [KER] Nolan Dowd Walsh of Listowel
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:48:06 -0500
Trying another marriage into the family. I have more info then shows below - any connections? Some of this group ends up in Australia, stayed at home in Ireland and then came to New York. Dennis Nolan became a priest and first came to the Ogdensburg New York area to meet up with his Uncle - Thomas Walsh Vicar of the Ogdensburg NY Diocese.
So any takers out there?????
Descendants of Dennis Nolan
1 Dennis Nolan b: in Ireland
.. +Mary Dowd
......... 2 William Nolan 1834 - 1907 b: 1834 in East Indies d: 1907 in Ireland
............. +Mary Walsh - 1902 b: in Co. Kerry d: 1902 in Ireland
.................... 3 Morris Nolan b: in Listowel Co Kerry d: in Australia
.................... 3 William Nolan b: in Listowel d: in Australia
.................... 3 Thomas Nolan b: in Listowel
.................... 3 Mary Nolan b: in Listowel
.................... 3 Catherine Nolan b: in Listowel d: in Ireland
.................... 3 Nora Nolan b: in Listowel d: in Ireland
.................... 3 Dennis Nolan 1856 - b: September 29, 1856 in Listowel, Co. Kerry, Ireland
......... 2 Jane Nolan
From: cathy carley <email@example.com>
Subject: DOODY Family From Listowel Co Kerry
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:57:00 +1100 (EST)
Trying to Find some Info on these 2 Doody Families in Listowel Co Kerry, as i think they maybe connected
My ggrandfather...John Thomas Doody born 1862, in Listowel, 2nd son of Thomas Doody..came here to South Australia in 1881 with a Sister Mary Josephine Doody, Born 1864
Another Doody that also came here to Australia...who was Born in Dough Listowel Co Kerry
Thomas Doody..Born in 1857..Father Thomas, Mother Catherine
Both John Doody and Thomas Doody were Butchers here
My Grandmother was the First Born and only Daughter of John Thomas Doody...Her name was Catherine(Kit)
I dont have the actual Birth Dates of my John Thomas Doody or his Sister Mary Josephine...BUT as irish Civil Registration records started in 1864, Maybe i may pick mary up on the Records
Both these Families were Catholic
Some Members of Family thought John Thomas Doody was from Co Cork, But i Found a Marriage Notice in our state newspaper here stating he was second son of Thomas Doody of Listowel Co Kerry
Tho Co Kerry is Next Door to co Cork..
I somehow think both these families are connected
Does anyone have Access to Listowel Records from Co Kerry?
From: John Wynd <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: [KER] LARKINS/BROSMAN/O'SHEA: Listowel & Killarney 1800-1900
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:06:16 +1000
Seeking information on James LARKINS (LARKIN) and Mary BROSMAN and
Also Cornelius O'SHEA.
Our Australian research indicates that James LARKINS and Mary BROSMAN may
have had six children;
Mary LARKINS m. Cornelius O'SHEA in Killarney circa 1860, then migrated to
Ellen LARKINS b. circa 1836 m. Willam LANCASTER in Castlemaine (Australia)
3 Sept 1864
Timothy LARKINS b. circa 1840 m. Catherine ARMSTRONG in Castlemaine
(Australia) 28 December 1867
James LARKINS b. circa 1847 m. Anne O'HALLOARAN in Castlemaine (Australia)
23 June 1872
David LARKINS b. circa 1853 m. Margaret Frahar McLEAN in Albury (Australia)
26 April 1886
Andrew LARKINS b. 18 December 1854 m. Ellen CHAMBERLAIN in Kilmore
(Australia) 29 May 1884
All six of these children migrated to Australia. We have assembled this
information (with significant assumptions) from marriage and baptism
records in Australia. In all cases the children have given their parents'
names as James LARKINS (LARKIN) and Mary BROSMAN (BRESHNAHAN etc.) and
birthplace as Kerry.
Our only clue to the LARKINS family in Kerry is from Griffiths Valuation
which lists Ellen LARKIN and James LARKIN as Occupiers in the Townland of
Carhooeargh, with further details of County Kerry, Barony Iraghticonnor,
Parish Knockanure, Poor Law Union Listowel.
Any information that is relevant to the above within Kerry would be
appreciated. Also advice on how to proceed with research. My fellow
researcher (Lyn LARKIN from Albury) has written to a Kerry contact seeking
the name of the Parish Priest in Listowel to see if she can make contact.
> Name: marc
> Email Address: email@example.com
> Message: hello i m trying to reach mr laurent, i am the owner of the hous of pauline de stack and looking for information about the family
> many thanks
> Posted by: Patrice LAURENT (ID *****1807) Date: July 29, 2007 at 01:51:08
> In Reply to: Re: Coat of Arms by Jim Stacks of 723
> Good morning from France,
> I am part of the Stack tree (from Françoise Josephine Pauline de STACK who got married in 1785 with my great great great great great grangfather Jean-Philippe PATIOT) and own a coat of arms coming from my family (from Sir Robert Stack to Colonel Robert Stack; dated from 1766).These Stacks were linked to different families: O'Connel, Fitzgerald, Fitzmaurice, Mac Carthy...
Fr Stan Brennan, Irish priest who received accolade from Emperor of Japan, dies
Wednesday, July 11th 2012
Tributes have been paid to an Irish priest who after he passed away this week after a long illness and was one of only eight people in the world to receive a prestigious honour from the Emperor of Japan.
Just last month Roscommon born Fr Stan Brennan received the 6th class Grand Order Award of the Rising Sun Silver and Gold rays for his work in the South African City of Boksburg where he was dedicated to the development of social welfare and the preservation of the environment.
The accolade is awarded by the Japanese Monarch for exceptional service internationally. The Franciscan priest had been working in Boksburg since 1965 where he had established projects on education, drug and alcohol abuse, AIDS, childcare and domestic abuse.
Born Seamus Brennan, Fr Stan was born in the village of Fuerty in County Roscommon in 1929. At an early age, Fr Stan dedicated his life to work on the missions in South Africa and arrived in Boksburg in South Africa in 1957 after studying in Rome.
His first post was as spiritual Director of the Diocesan Seminary in Boksburg and he was later to work in Rieger Park as parish priest of Saint Francis Church. His greatest work will always be synonymous with helping AIDS victims.
As a Franciscan, he personally took up the challenge and drew symbolism with the story of St Francis of Assisi who dismounted his donkey to assist a leper and confront the general fear people have towards the disease with human kindness. In 1992 with Fr Stan's help Sr Francis Care Centre in Boksburg opened its doors after a lengthily legal battle.
The clinic prospered and is now funded by George Bush's PEPFAR programme. St Francis Care Centre administers essential daily ARV treatment to 4,000 people.
As well as his work for AIDS victims, Fr Stan was also involved in education and helped fundraise to build Africa's largest second-level education college and technical skills centre.
Saint Anthony's College has 5,000 enrolled in its classes every day and its technical skills training college a further 600 who are obtaining a 45-day crash course in the fundamental skills required in sectors like welding, plumbing, car mechanics, dress making as well as a host of other practical courses.
In 2004, he started Mercy Haven, a multi-racial drug and alcohol rehabilitation in Boksburg.
During his time in the city, he received more than 50 awards and in 2009, he received the Michael Memorial Award for dedicating his life to the uplifting of the poor.
On June 19, last Fr Brennan was too ill to receive his Grand Order award. His brother Andy travelled from County Wicklow to receive the accolade at the Japanese embassy.
His funeral will take place in Boksburg on July 12 and afterwards his remains will be cremated.
His ashes are to be spread both at St Francis Care Centre and in County Roscommon.
The South African ANC party will perform a full guard of honour at the funeral ceremony.
by Sean Ryan
July 2012 Vatican declares Irish Nun Venerable.
Venerable Mother M. Angeline Teresa was born Bridget Teresa McCrory on January 21 1893 in Co Tyrone. However, when she was just seven years old the family moved from Ireland to Scotland. At nineteen, she joined the Little Sisters of the Poor and made her novitiate in France. The Congregation was engaged in the care of the destitute aged. After profession she was sent to the US.
In 1927, she and six other members of the Little Sisters of the Poor were granted permission by the Vatican to begin a new community that would be focused on care of the aged. In 1931, the fledgling community affiliated itself to the Order of Carmel and became known as the Carmelite Sisters for the Aged and Infirm.
When she died on January 21 1984, Mother Angeline Teresa’s congregation had blossomed beyond her expectations. She is remembered for having said, “If you have to fail, let it be on the side of kindness. Be kinder than kindness itself to old people.”
ST GALL: This year the Abbey of St Gallen in Switzerland is celebrating the 1400th anniversary of the arrival of St Gall in the region in 612 AD. St Gallen is situated between the Swiss Alps and Lake Constance. St Gall was one of the twelve companions who accompanied St Columbanus on his mission to the Continent from Ireland. After his death around 646 AD, a small church was erected which developed into the Abbey of St Gall in the city of St Gallen. This later devloped into one of the largest Benedictine Abbeys in Europe.
Details of trip to the Abbey of St Gallen, 066 7131328.
At the Catholic Chapel in Alderny on 24th July 1856, Dan Kennelly son of Denys Kennelly and Mary Walsh married Mary Nevil daughter of James Nevil and Bridget Patt. Both of County Kerry.
Witnesses Allen Julian, Edmond Sheehy, Margaret Julian and James Nevil.
Dan and Mary later went to NY , his favourite tune was the Kerry Cow.
Note Dan Kennelly of Shronegragra, baptised Moyvane 17 March 1831, son of Dan Denis Kennelly and Mary Walsh.
Oct 6 Notes 2005
DEATH of Mai Mc Mahon nee Hayes of Shrone, West Listowel on 18th September 05 she was predeceased by her husband Jerome, brothers Br. Bernard Hayes O.C.S.O Rosclea and Br. D.E. Hayes C.B.,
Baldoyle and is survived by sons Fr. Aidan C.S.sR. Rome, Bernard, Conleth, Thomas and Sean and Sister Kathleen Baker, her granduncles Fr John Leahy died in Sacramento in 1902 and Fr Jeremiah
Leahy died in Petaluma California in 1915. Following requiem Mass in St Mary's Listowel Mai McMahon was laid to rest at St John's cemetery Ballybunion on 20th September 05. Mai was daughter of
Denis Hayes and Katie McElligott of Carrigkerry and her maternal great grandparents Timothy Leahy and Ellen Goulding came from Knockanure.
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Surnames: golden Goulding Howard Gaynor
There was a Hugh Goulding age 25 that came to Chicago in 1911
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Bernard Geurin remembers some of the larger-than-life characters that impressed him as a child, and which contributed to the uniqness that Ballyduff holds for him:
We often wonder why our own native-born place is so important to us. This is not confined to humans alone, as birds come back to their place of birth every year by a way that we do not know. I was born in Ballyduff in 1930. I had no bearing on it, but it is my dearest spot. My God above must have chosen it. I left it for over thirty years, but something made me return. Looking back over the years, I find it a remarkable place.
In 1891 Kerry, who were represented by Ballyduff, won Kerry's only Hurling All-Ireland, their one and only honour in hurling. There were 21 players on each side then, and releasing 42 players on a field must have led to great and rough encounters, so Ballyduff must have had tough men then. It was a few years later before Kerry won the Football All-Ireland final.
The Barretts, who live outside our village were very famous men. Edmund Barrett in 1908, at the Olympic Games held in London, won a bronze medal in wrestling, and also won a gold medal with the London tug-of-war team. He also won an All-Ireland gold medal in hurling against Cork in 1901, and is the only Irishman to win two gold medals.
When I was small, a woman, Mrs County, from Bishopscourt, was very handy in helping women at birth, and helped in bringing the children to get baptised. I remember her for bringing water from two wells, beyond the sports field, as there was no piped water then. She carried one bucket of water on her head and another one in her hand. She was the only woman I remember doing this.
A Mrs Sullivan from Rattoo did some work in my home at weekends, cleaning and many other jobs. When she was going home, a distance of 3 miles, she took clothing from our home to get it washed and dried. She packed them all into a big sheet and tied them into a round ball. She put this load into her head, and took messages in her hands. She was the last person I saw doing this. These strange things are among my earliest memories of Ballyduff.
Once again we return to our So You Want My Job series, in which we interview men who are employed in desirable jobs and ask them about the reality of their work and for advice on how men can live their dream.
It may come as a surprise to some, but people like Andre Agassi, Gary Vaynerchuk, and Hillary Clinton, don't write their own books. Celebrities, politicians, business executives and the like are often too busy, not confident in their abilities, or just not inclined to spend the time writing a book (or even a tweet). That's where ghostwriters like Dean Zatkowsky come in. When he's not rattling chains and turning lights off and on, Mr. Zatkowsky writes books, articles, and blog posts for his clients. More about Dean can be found on his website.
1. Tell us a little about yourself (Where are you from? How old are you? Describe your job and how long you've been at it, etc.).
I live in a little California community called Ojai, about 90 miles northwest of LA and 30 miles southeast of Santa Barbara. I'm 51 years old, and I write blogs, newspaper columns, press releases, marketing materials and books for a number of individuals, companies and non-profit organizations. Some work is freelance writing, some is copywriting, and some is ghostwriting. Most of my ghosting clients are business executives who lack the time or inclination to write their own books and articles.
I'm an accidental ghostwriter. It began in college, when I helped other students edit their term papers. Sometimes the "edit" turned into a complete rewrite.
I don't think of myself as a particularly good writer, but I'm a very effective writer. I'm good at identifying key message points and mimicking the client's voice while using language familiar to the target audience.
My professional writing career began when I joined Kinko's as an advertising copywriter in 1986. Remember those ads that said, "Copies 5¢"? I wrote those! I also wrote brochures, radio and television ads, direct mail pieces, and internal newsletter articles.
Company founder Paul Orfalea liked my style and asked me to write his newsletter articles. Prior to my arrival, chipper young women in the marketing department had been writing for Paul, which explains why his articles always made him sound like a chipper young woman. Had they been handwritten, each "i" would have been dotted with a daisy.
Those articles for Paul were the beginning of a beautiful relationship. We still work together. Because of his dyslexia, he doesn't mind sharing the fact that others write for him, so I am allowed to reveal him as a client. I chuckle when he introduces me as his ghostwriter. It reminds me of that old one-liner: "Wanna see something invisible?" He is the only client I will name, which might make the rest of this interview a little clunky, but to be a ghost you have to be a ghost.
For most of the past twenty-three years, I've moonlighted as a ghostwriter while working as a marketing executive. In addition to a long career at Kinko's, I was VP of Marketing for a direct mail company, then VP of Marketing for a wealth management firm. Two years ago, I launched Dizzy One Ventures LLC to work full time on writing projects. The bulk of my business consists of content generation for client blogs and newspaper columns. In addition to those annuity assignments, I get a lot of ad hoc press releases and articles, and I try to produce one to two book projects per year.
2. Why did you want to become a ghostwriter? When did you know it was what you wanted to do?
I wouldn't say ghostwriting is what I want to do, although there is much to recommend it, especially if you like privacy, solitude, and anonymity. Ghosting presents the opportunity to write and get paid for it, but without carrying the entire marketing load. The people who hire me have an audience and a platform already, so I'm usually blessed with a "just add words" environment. I get to do what I like to do, and I charge a fair price for my time and talent. I don't make the big bucks, but I don't take many big risks, either.
In the corporate world, one frequently sees two glaring weaknesses: poor writing and poor public speaking. Over the years, I recognized these weaknesses as opportunities, and offered to write articles and speeches whenever possible. I'd rather be writing novels and screenplays, but I'm more committed to my family's security than to my "art." For undiscovered writers, regardless of talent, novels and screenplays are lottery tickets. Ghostwriting and copywriting are jobs. I still write screenplays and stories, but for the sheer pleasure of doing it.
3. Why are ghostwriters hired? What kinds of projects and books are you asked to work on?
People like Theodore Roosevelt and Ernest Hemingway are rare, because most doers cannot sit still long enough to be chroniclers too. My clients tend to be people of manic energy - spending half an hour to craft one clear sentence might cause their heads to explode. Many people of exceptional achievement cannot or will not take time for the craft of writing. I'm grateful that TR and Papa did, and grateful that my clients don't.
Even if manic achievers possess the patience and craftsmanship to pen their own stories, I'd wager that 99% of all celebrity, business and political works are ghostwritten for the simple economic reality that these people's time is better spent doing their regular work.
Illiterates also hire ghostwriters, but I say "illiterate" in a literal rather than pejorative sense. Your readers, being readers, might be surprised at the number of successful people who cannot read well and cannot write at all. Many owe their success to learning disabilities that forced them to find creative solutions to problems the rest of us don't even notice. Kinko's founder Paul Orfalea is one of the most intelligent people you're likely to meet, but between his dyslexia and his ADHD, there's no way he's going to produce a 1600-word book foreword on his own.
Other clients feel they have a story to tell, but don't know how to tell it, or they don't know the mechanical steps to get from idea to outline to rough draft to final.
Lately, blogs make up the bulk of my work. A client can voicemail, text, or email an idea at any time and have a reasonably entertaining and literate blog entry posted within hours (depending on our agreed-upon approval process). Writing blogs for business celebrities requires a marketing executive's dedication to branding. I have to work fast, but I also have to protect my client and keep their long-term goals in mind, even when they haven't.
4. How much of a book or article are ghostwriters responsible for? To what extent do they collaborate with the "author" of the book?
Each project is unique. One person wants a book based on a one-sentence idea. The next gives me thirty pages of notes for a 600-word newspaper column. A few prospective clients had already written good books but lacked confidence. All they really needed was an editor, and I'm not a great editor. Heck, I need a great editor most of the time. (I suppose this interview proves it).
I bill myself as a guerrilla writer because I prefer to work independently. I don't even get topics from my regular column and blog clients anymore. I know their business goals and their philosophy, and I know what current events might inspire comment. So I just churn the stuff out. Before publication, I insist that the client review each article. I don't want any surprises when it's too late to revise.
Obviously, a ghost working on someone's autobiography will need a lot of time and cooperation from the subject, but I haven't taken on any projects like that. Ann Marsh spent many months conducting interviews with Paul and his associates before co-writing his autobiography. In cases like that, the client tends to be very involved.
4. Why be a ghostwriter as opposed to an ordinary author?
I'm sure many do both, and I'm excited to have my own book coming out this year (E Pluribus Kinko's: A Story of Business, Democracy, and Freaky Smart People).
The easy answer is income. A person who is already well known, or who has adequate resources to become well-known, is going to sell a lot more books than an unheard-of former marketing executive. I've got a family to support, and that's the primary reason for ghosting rather than pitching my own brand. But ghosting also fits my personality.
Ghostwriting makes me a professional dilettante. I get to learn a little bit about a topic, then write a paper and move on to the next topic. It's what I most enjoyed about school, plus a paycheck. Many bloggers know this joy, except for the paycheck part.
Each day, I scan my to-do list and say out loud, "Who am I this morning?" Before breakfast, I might research new developments in early childhood education to write a press release for a non-profit foundation. After lunch, I get to study Iran's gasoline import policies for a hedge fund manager's newsletter. Later, out on the back deck with a cigar and a beautiful sunset, I may be working on a book about how scientific research on ADHD can improve everyone's focus and productivity in the workplace. I enjoy both the research and the art of mimicry as I figure out how to express the new information in someone else's voice.
Certainly I've developed some expertise on a handful of subjects, but I find energy in the variety, and writing for a living requires a lot of energy.
5. How is a ghostwriter remunerated for their work?
I've seen a wide variety of fee schedules on the web. THIS ghostwriter charges new clients by the hour and established clients by the word, or through a retainer agreement. At this point in my career, I try to average about $150 per hour. I charge new clients for time because learning a new business and voice takes a while, but produces little product in the short term. However, the upfront investment (of my time and their money) ensures I can work quickly and efficiently for them in the future.
I offer several options for book projects, ranging from a huge flat fee with no royalties to a small flat fee with ALL of the royalties. My last book project with Paul Orfalea (Two Billion Dollars in Nickels: Reflections on the Entrepreneurial Life) was handled differently. I received no advance fee, but we published the book as partners and share sales revenues.
6. Are ghostwriters typically given credit for their work? If not, is it difficult to see someone get all the credit for your handiwork?
Usually, I am a complete ghost, and I take pride in providing words my clients would have been proud to write themselves. It is marvelous to see someone get credit for my work, and it is horrifying to see someone lambasted for my error or lack of clarity.
Sometimes ghostwriters are credited as a co-author (by Paul Orfalea and Dean Zatkowsky), as an associate (by Paul Orfalea with Ann Marsh), and of course, "as told to..."
I have to admit, the first time I saw my turn of phrase attributed to someone else in the Wall Street Journal, I felt a pang of jealousy. But when I really thought about it, it wasn't my turn of phrase, per se. I would not have been thinking about the subject at all unless the client led me there. I recognize this work as a partnership, where I am the silent partner. When my ego needs stroking, I fancy myself as the man behind the great man, whispering in his ear...
7. How do you find work as a ghostwriter? Do publishers and authors seek you out or do you have to try and seek them out? If the latter, how do you go about finding jobs?
My business grew organically through word-of-mouth and relationships I made during my marketing career. My website and co-author credits have attracted some calls, and that is how I learned that I charge quite a bit more than ghostwriters you can find through Google.
I must digress here for a minute. Some of the people shocked by my rates labored under the serious misconception that they would make money by "writing" a book. The average book sells less than 2,000 copies in its lifetime, and that average includes titles by J. K. Rowling and Stephen King, so most books do not sell many copies at all. And most books never generate profits. By writing my own books and self-publishing through a print-on-demand model, I can generate profits after selling as few as one hundred copies. The books also serve as marketing tools for my workshops (E Pluribus Success: Building Engagement, Creativity and Initiative through Organizational Democracy) and my writing services.
If I had to pay a ghostwriter, pay a publisher (don't kid yourself, most of the big publishing houses are now thinly disguised vanity presses, hedging their costs by getting well-heeled authors to buy a significant portion of the first print run), do my own promotion and marketing (surely you don't think a publisher is going to promote YOUR book), etc., I'd need to sell a hell of a lot of books to make any money at all. I've had prospective clients offer me a share of royalties in lieu of payment, but until one of them is a former President of the United States or a scandal-prone celebrity, I'll take mine up front, thank you.
For the most part, my business clients aren't interested in selling books - they're interested in buying prestigious marketing tools. Individuals want work that defines and defends their legacy. They don't care about sales - they just want to have their say.
8. What is the best part of your job?
Differentiating the job from the work, I'd say that working from home and managing my own schedule are the best parts of the job. As a Marketing VP, I rarely got to take a long walk in the middle of the day to think about a problem. I should have, but I didn't. When my father had some medical issues recently, I was able to spend three days with him without missing a day of work.
Continuous education is the best part of the work. I get paid to learn new things and explain them clearly to others. When I do it well, it's quite a rush.
9. What is the worst part of your job?
Like any service provider, I occasionally encounter difficult clients. One in particular comes to mind, for he possesses two challenging traits: 1) He cannot articulate what he wants, but knows what he doesn't want as soon as he sees it. 2) He believes a final publication deadline is when he can begin to think about possibly reviewing the work I turned in two weeks early. And of course, no matter how long he takes to respond to a question or review a draft, he expects my revisions immediately. On the plus side, he's a very smart guy and although he often obsesses over irrelevant details, he also manages to catch errors that no one else notices.
Worse than that is the client who insists on talking down to his audience, projecting his own lack of erudition onto the masses. When I use a word my best clients don't know, they ask, "What does that mean?" When I use a word my worst client doesn't know, I hear from his secretary: "He doesn't know that word. Get rid of it!" The best clients want to learn and grow and help their readers do the same. The worst clients generalize from their own arrogance.
But difficult clients are only the second worst part of the job. The worst part is when I have to write well about something despicable. I kid you not: I've been asked to deliver sixteen hundred words on "How to Profit from Food Shortages." After you've done a good job on an article like that, it helps to know a bartender with a liberal wrist.
10. What's the work/family/life balance like?
When I was a marketing executive at Kinko's, I traveled every week. My kids were little, and while I loved my work, I often hated my job.
Working from home and managing my own schedule allows more of a partnership ethos at home. I can provide transportation for my teenage daughter, and spend time with my son when he visits from college. And I can be here when unreliable contractors or appliance repairmen think they might possibly show up.
Best of all, my wife is a compulsive reader and a very good editor, so we get to work together when we feel like it, and we always have new subjects to talk about.
The downside, as any home worker knows, is that the work is always there, either teasing or scolding. I need more discipline to take care of myself (getting some exercise or watching a movie) than to take care of business.
11. What is the biggest misconception people have about your job?
I've been shocked by the number of people that have no idea what a ghostwriter does. The most common reaction: excitement that one can make a living writing ghost stories. But generally, ghostwriters and copywriters suffer no misconceptions because no one ever thinks about us in the first place.
12. Any other advice, tips, or anecdotes you'd like to share?
On Voice: I always try to collect recordings of my clients, because I want to recreate their tone, diction and cadence in print. I listen to the recordings and mimic them out loud until I can do a passable impression. Later, when I'm writing, it helps if I can read passages aloud in the client's voice.
On Discipline: Ernest Hemingway offered two bits of advice that have improved my productivity since I was fifteen years old. He recommended quitting each day before you were finished - right in the middle of a sentence if necessary - so you know exactly where to start the next day. Brilliant. And of course, when you do get stuck and find yourself staring at the page/screen, just write one true sentence. The truest sentence you know.
On Inspiration: Ray Bradbury offered some advice that always helps me get started on a new project: "Leap off the cliff and build your wings on the way down." Come to think of it, that pretty well describes my career as a ghostwriter.
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Tuesday, December 1, 2009
City Fines Archdiocese of San Francisco $14.4 Million
The City of San Francisco is hard up for cash, so they've decided to steal it from the Archdiocese of San Francisco because they can - nakedly, in broad daylight, without the slightest plausible legal pretense. The Church is openly hated and condemned in San Francisco for its support of Proposition 8 and its defense of human sexual morality in general. The City can steal from the Archdiocese because the City needs the money and because it makes the citizenry happy to stick it to the evil Catholic Church.
Here's some backstory from a previous post:
When you sell a piece of property in many California jurisdictions, including San Francisco, the seller must pay a rather exhorbitant tax for the privilege which is based upon the value of the property. It is akin to a sales tax on a home or commercial property.
The San Francisco Archdiocese owns hundreds of lots in San Mateo, Marin and San Francisco counties. The exceedingly vast majority of these properties are the lots which make up a parish plant, i.e., church, school, parish hall, parking lot, rectory. . .
The Archdiocese has historically held title to these properties under two names - The Roman Catholic Welfare Corporation and the Roman Catholic Archbishop of San Francisco, a Corporation Sole.
In December, 2007, San Francisco Archbishop George Niederauer announced a corporate restructuring within the archdiocese and by May 2008, almost all properties in question had been consolidated under the title of the Archdiocese of San Francisco Parish and School Juridic Persons Juridic Property Support Corp.
Since this is not a sale or transfer to a different organization or person, no transfer tax is invoked and no transfer tax has ever been invoked in the history of the state for such a transaction.
That is, until City Assessor Phil Ting gauged the likely public reaction to an outright theft from the Prop. 8 supporting Catholic Church and realized it would not only be profitable, but popular. Last year Ting, unlike assessors in Marin and San Mateo Counties, decided to charge the Archdiocese a transfer tax on all Archdiocesan properties in San Francisco. This includes properties such as Mission Dolores, which have been owned by the Church since before there was a State of California or a taxing authority in San Francisco.
They are still owned by the Church. No money changed hands. Yet, the City is charging the Archdiocese the second largest real estate transfer tax in history, as if the Archdiocese were a real estate investor selling a profitable high-rise office building.
The Archdiocese appealed Ting's decision to an appeal board which yesterday agreed to take $14.4 million from the Church. The Archdiocese will now take the issue to court. Archdiocesan spokesperson Maury Healy told the San Francisco Chronicle:
"The board members, all of whom are City Hall administrators rather than members of the judiciary, apparently faced tremendous pressure in view of the city's desperate need for revenue . . . We are glad that having exhausted the required administrative process we can finally proceed to a formal, neutral civil court forum . . . We trust that the civil court will carefully consider the applicable law, devoid of the sensationalism and politics that the archdiocese thus far has faced."
Pray for the persecuted Church in San Francisco. This is just one of many assaults the Church has suffered there recently. Hat Tip to A Shepherd's Voice who has more background here and especially here.
Irish Family Name of the Day:
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Carol Shannon of St. Louis, MO
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My Shannons are from Wexford and settled in Callaway County, Missouri
Related Spellings of the Name
Shanin, Seanan, Shanaghan, Giltenane, Fox, Shanan, Shanny, Shanon....
O Seanachain, MacGiolla t-Seanain
Varient Spelling Groups: #714, #1859, #1860, #3117
Taken from the Master Guide to the Various Spellings
of Irish Family Names) http://www.irishroots.com/id4918.htm
History of the Name
Irish families of the name of Shannon may stem from one of at least
three separate origin there. They may descend from O'Shanaghan ,
O'Seanain, or from MacGiolla Seanain. No research we have uncovered
has connected this name to the River Shannon however.
The O'Seanin family was anciently found in counties Carlow and Wexford,
but it is not found numerous there in either 1659 a.d. or 1891 a.d. records.
Spelled as Shannon the name was most often found in Antrim, Clare and
Roscommon in the 1890 index.
In 1659 Shannon was found in Cork, and Shannahan under various
spellings was a principal name of Limerick, Waterford and Tipperary.
According to Keatings History Shannahan was Anglicized mistakenly into
"Fox" and "Shannon".
Subsequently they spread into Cork, Kerry, Tipperary, Limerick and Waterford,
the main locations for the Shanahan name in the 1890 birth index.
SAMUEL LEWIS IN 1837.
A parish, in the Glenquin Division of the barony of Upper Connello, 10 miles (W. by S.) from Newcastle, on the mail coach road from Limerick to Tralee; containing 4242 inhabitants, of which number, 607 are in the village. This place obviously derives its name from a Cistercian abbey founded here, in 1188, by Brien O'Brien, and from its situation on the river Feale: the abbey, in 1209, became a cell to that of Monasternanagh, or Nenay, in the barony of Pubblebrien. The village, situated in a wild mountainous district, was almost inaccessible, but since the construction of the new lines of road, great alterations have taken place; great improvements in the condition of the people has resulted from the facilities thus afforded of taking their little produce to market; and the inhabitants are now industriously and profitably employed. Here is a large and commodious hotel, and some respectable houses, but the greater number are thatched cabins. The village has a penny post dependent on Newcastle, and is a constabulary police station. Fairs are held on 29 June and 24 September, chiefly for cattle, sheep, and pigs. The parish comprises 17,659 statute acres, as applotted under the tithe act, of which 1620 acres are arable, 12,800 pasture, and about 3,500 waste land and bog; a considerable portion of the waste land is gradually being brought into cultivation, and the system of agriculture is steadily improving. From long previous neglect, the lands in many parts have become marshy and cold, and in some places are covered to the depth of several feet with a loose turbary, which, in the total absence of timber, affords excellent fuel, of which great quantities are sent to Newcastle, whence limestone is brought in return and is burnt with coal of indifferent quality procured here for that purpose only. The farms have generally large dairies, and a considerable quantity of butter is sent to Cork and Limerick. On the great line of road from Limerick to Tralee is Wellesley bridge, a handsome structure, about a mile and a half to the west of the village; and at the same distance to the east is Goulburn bridge. The new line of road leading through the heart of the mountains from Abbeyfeale to Glin, a distance of 12 miles, was opened after the spring assizes of 1836, previously to which there was scarcely any possibility of access to this secluded district, which for that reason was, in the year 1822, selected as their head-quarters by the Rockites, who dated their proclamations ‘From our camp in Abbeyfeale'. The living is a vicarage, in the diocese of Limerick, and in the patronage of Lord Southwell, during whose legal incapacity the Crown presents; the rectory is impropriate in Richard Ellis and Thomas G. Bateman, Esqrs. The tithes amount to ?320, payable to the impropriators; the clerical duties of the parish are performed by the curate of an adjoining parish, who is paid by Lord Southwell. The church, a small edifice in the early English style, with a lofty square tower, was erected near the village in 1812, for which the late Board of First Fruits gave ?800. There is neither glebe-house nor glebe. The R.C. parish is co-extensive with that of the Established Church; the chapel, situated in the village was erected on the site of the ancient monastery, a small portion of which is incorporated with it. There are four pay schools, in which are about 100 boys and 50 girls. On the bank of the river, one mile from the village, are the ruins of Purt Castle, built by a branch of the Geraldine family, to command the pas
The LEAHY Family
For almost 165 years, the Leahy's have made Seneca county, Ohio their home. David and Cornelius Leahy were original landowners in Seneca county. They purchased adjoining parcels in Section 24 of Loudon Township, on 29 October 1833. Later, James and Owen Leahy bought bordering property in Louden Township. Between these four brothers, the Leahy's owned 400 continuous acres of land in Loudon Township.
James and Hannah Leahy were both born in Ireland. Their first children Mary (1831-1906) and Johanna "Halley" (1833) were born in Ireland. The family made their home in Loudon in 1834 and had Ellen (1835-1883), Timothy (1836-1905), Catherine (1840-1919), James Cornelius (1841-1890) and Frank David (1845). In 1841, James leased a portion of his land to be used as a temporary schoolhouse. James passed away at home on 4 October 1844. James Cornelius (1841-1890), their son, served in the Union Army during the Civil War from 1862-1865 in Company D of the 123rd Infantry. He was promoted from Private to Sergeant. He received a gunshot wound to the hip, was captured, and later released. Hannah died on 16 July 1867 and is buried in St. Patrick's cemetery near Owen and David Leahy. Their heirs sold the property in 1870.
David Leahy was born in Ireland about 1800. On 1 January 1837, he was united in marriage to Maria Eva Unser, daughter of John Jacob and Maria Theresa Unser (see Unser article) at St. Boniface Catholic Church, New Riegel. Together they had 11 children: Timothy (1837-1866), Mary Ann (1839-1919), Cornelius (1841-1923), James (1843-1919), Anna Rose (1845-1929), Johanna (1847), David J. (1849-1919), Katherine D. (1853-1941) (see Cotter article), Ellen Lena (1856), John (1858-1935), and Charles Eugene (1863-1954). In 1847, David leased a portion of his property to be used temporarily as a schoolhouse. Timothy (1837-1866) went West during the California Gold Rush. He died and is buried in California. David and Maria Eva both passed away in the same home in 1878 and 1909, respectively. With the exception of a portion used to build St. Patrick's Catholic Church, the original property remained in the Leahy family for 130 years. A beautiful monument at St. Patrick's Cemetery remains in memory of David and Maria Eva Leahy.
Cornelius Leahy sponsored Mary Ann Leahy, daughter of David and Eva Maria Leahy, at her baptism in 1840 at St. Mary's Catholic Church, Tiffin. In 1850 he sold his parcel of land in Louden Township. No further documentation has been found in Seneca county regarding this brother.
Owen Leahy was born in Ireland about 1814. He purchased 80 acres in Loudon Township in 1850, and 7 years later married Catherine (Francis) Stack, who had two children, Garret and Catherine, from her previous marriage. Together they had Mary (1858), Timothy (1860-1923), and Patrick Thomas (1862-1950). Patrick Thomas Leahy was a teacher in Louden and then went into farming. He was a founding member of Producers Milk Company and its first president before moving to Cleveland. Owen died 12 August 1884 and was buried beside David Leahy in St. Patrick's Cemetery. In 1907, Catherine, 81, leased out the farm and moved to Cleveland, near her sons Timothy and Patrick Leahy. About a year later, she died in Cleveland and was buried there.
Many questions still remain regarding these four brothers, their ancestors, and their city of birth. Distant cousins now work together to preserve the history of the Leahy family. This article is the result of combined research by Shane and Sheila Burke: firstname.lastname@example.org, Eugene and Mary Catherine Phillips of Tiffin, Ohio: email@example.com William Cotter, James and Heather Zabel: firstname.lastname@example.org, and Frances and Bill White: email@example.com. Additional information and queries are appreciated.
My great great grandfather, Francis Cotter, 1806/1884, came to the United States sometime before 1840. In that year, he applied for citizenship in Paris, Kentucky where it was granted in 1844. In September of 1844 he married Mary MURPHY, 1822/1877, while living in Lexington, Kentucky. Mary's brother, Cornelius, was in Company G, 32nd Ohio Infantry during the Civil War. His enlistment papers stated he was from County Cork, Ireland, so it is assumed Mary was also from there. The family moved to Tiffin, Ohio sometime after 1845. Records show that Francis purchased land 12 January 1846 in Hopewell Township, Seneca county. Additional land was purchased 6 April 1850 and 7 March 18555, for a total of 194 acres. Anecdotal information from my mother, as well as an aunt and uncle, state that the progenitor was James Cotter. His wife's maiden name may have been MAGGUS. In the mid 1700's religious persecution in England brought them to Abbeyfeale, County Limerick. There were a number of children born to this union. The names mentioned were William, James, Nicholas, Julia, and Francis. Nicholas was in the army, probably English, and died in Egypt.
Julia Cotter married Maurice HARTNETT, 1791/1886. His obituary states he was born near Abbeyfeale. The family came to Tiffin from Ireland in 1851.
Thomas LEAHY, 1821/1911, was born near Abbeyfeale and worked on a farm near New Market, Limerick. He married Ellen HARTNETT in 1848 and came to the United States in 1862. From the above information, it is assumed that Francis Cotter came from the Abbeyfeale area. The union of Francis and Mary Cotter produced the following children: Ellen Cecilia, 1846/1931, who became Sr.. Sabistina, Sisters of Charity, Nazareth, Kentucky; James, 1847/1907, became a doctor and moved to Lincoln, Nebraska. Married Minnie HOFFMAN. Anna J. (Nancy), 1850/1917, married John COUGHLIN.
Patrick Nelson (my grandfather), 1852/1933, married Katherine D. LEAHY. William B., 1855/1913, moved to San Francisco in 1883 and died there. Wife, Benedicta?. Mary Isabella, 1859/1888, married Timothy LEAHY. Julia Agnes, 1856/1918, married David LEAHY. Francis, 1863/1943. Lifetime resident of Tiffin, never married. The union of Patrick Nelson and Katherine D. Cotter, October 5, 1880, produced the following children: Evelyn Mary, 1881/1969, married John POLLARD in California, no children. Angela, 1883/1885. Ella Mae (my mother), 1886/1975 married Albert Bernard WHITE in Texas, one child. William J., 1891/1967, became a Catholic priest in the Toledo Diocese. Charles F., 1888/1969. Married Louise KIRKLEY, three children, she died 1920. Second marriage to Hilda RIESTERER, three children. Lived in Dayton, Ohio. Hazel, 1894/1990, married Ernest HOFFMAN and lived in Perrysburg, Ohio, two children.
For the interconnection of the Cotter family with the Leahy, Unser and Hartnett families, see their listings in the Seneca County Genealogical Society's publication Seneca County History and Families, 1997.
Submitted by William Cotter White of El Paso, Texas. E-mail address:
NY Leitrim Society Jan 2009
The Distinguished Service award recipient this year is our Financial Secretary, Margaret Mary Taylor-Finucane. Margaret Mary has served in this position since 2004. She was the Society's President from January 2002 through December 2003 and had previously served as Vice-President, Corresponding Secretary and Chairperson of Membership. Margaret Mary is the daughter of Joe Taylor, from Eslin Bridge, and Margaret (nee McGovern) from Drumreilly. Joe is a past President of the Leitrim Society and Margaret has been a long time member of this Society.
Margaret Mary was born in Astoria, Queens and raised in Elmhurst, New York. She is currently employed as an Attorney with the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey in the Corporate Security/Public Safety & Emergency Management Division.
Margaret Mary is married to John Finucane from Abbeyfeale, Co. Limerick and they have two children, Sean and Bridget. They currently reside in Floral Park, NY.
CHARLOTTE GRACE O'BRIEN.Charlotte Grace O'Brien, author and socialworker, second daughter of William Smith O'Brien
Iby his wife, Lucy Caroline Grabbett, of High* Park,was born at Caliermoyle, Co. Limerick, on 2ïkdof November, 1845, the year of the first greatpotato shortage in Ireland.During her childhood, she witnessed many of theharrowing scenes which famine brought to thecountry ; and' her father was transported when shewas three years old and not allowed to returnuntil she was eleven. Thus Charlottte was bornto be a rebel and remained so all' her life.This spirit first showed itself in a novel of theFenian Rising of 1869, "Light and Shade," whichwas publised in 1878. The material for this novelwas gathered by word of mouth from the Fenianleaders, and Stephen Gvvyun, her nephew, says ofit:-"It is violent, even dramatic in incident; itJacks the power of characterisation, but it hasmany passages of beauty. . ."Smith O'Brien died in .1864 but Charlotte con-tinued to live with her married brother at Calier-moyle until 1879, when she went to Ärdanoir, over-looking Foynes Island. Here she spent the restof her life.In 1880 her first volume of verse, "Drama andLyrics," was published and in the same year sheshowed her interest in Irish politics and economicsby writing "The Irish Poor Man," an article forthe "Nineteenth Century" magazine. She became astaunch supporter of Parnell, and this led her toher life's work, the care of the poor emigratingIrish.In articles and letters to the newspapers and re-views, she exposed the awful conditions existingin the Queenstown (Cobh) lodging-houses, on boardthe emigrant ships, and in thei dock-slums of NewYork, where the Irish had to stay on landing.She travelled twice to Liverpool to see con-ditions on the boats for herself, and her exposureof them caused a great sensation and a marked
The Stack's http://churchstreet53.com/people.html
In 1874 Thomas Stack, originally from Lissahane, purchased the House from John Dillane Their first son Thomas Francis was born October 15 the same year they bought the house. This was bought as a family house and shop by the Stacks. Thomas Stack was married to Hanora o Donoghue from Ballyrehan Lixnaw They were Married in 1870 at Lixnaw church Thomas had spent 15 years in the US prior to returning to his native Kerry. While in the US Thomas and his brother Richard partook in the long held Stack tradition of engaging in the major military battles. Like Edmund Stack a war hero of the 1745 French battle at Fontenoy and Decorated Captain Edward Stack, the American revolutionary war hero. The two stack brothers were engaged in many of the bloodiest battles of the devastating American Civil War. Thomas and Richard were not career soldiers. They were working in Alabama doing hard manual labor when story has it that if they did not sign up, they would not get paid monies due for some contract work that they were involved in. Thomas joined the Alabama 2nd regiment based mostly in Mobile, Alabama and Richard joined the Alabama 8th regiment company A. This regiment fought in all the major civil war battles.
St. Patricks in Montana built by Fr Thomas Francis Stack
A Confederate soldier
Thomas escaped serious injury and returned home to a poor country but a safer one that the one he had left behind. The Stacks had Seven children Born here at 53 Church St: Molly, Thomas, Richard, James, Ellen, Elizabeth, Michael. All seven emigrated to the US as their father had done forty years prior. Philadelphia was the destination for most of these young church streeters. The girls worked as domestics and housekeepers mostly. James became a clergy assistant, Thomas Francis was ordained a priest in 1900. He built a cathedral in Billings, Montana in 1906 called St Patricks Co Cathedral. Michael Joseph, the youngest boy, was well taken care of by Molly his eldest sister. She was a housekeeper for some wealthy Philadelphia families. Michael served in WW1 in the Navy. He later became a Congressman (1930s). He served in the Naval Affairs Committe with future president, Lyndon B Johson. Ellen (Nelly) married William Hayes from Dromkeen Co Limerick . They had 5 boys and one girl.
Thomas Stack left the house to his eldest son Fr Thomas Francis Stack (Glendive Montana USA) when he died in 1912. The Kielys were living in the house at the time. Jack Kiely and his wife Hanora Fitzgerald had a shoemaker business in the shop. 11 children were born to the Kielys here, twins died at birth leaving nine surviving children. Jack Kiely died tragically in 1914 at the age of 43 from tubercolosis leaving behind his young family. Kiely children were Mai b1902 she worked at Mc Auley Solicitors. The Square, Fr Michael b1904 spent most of his life in Sydney Australia. Agneas b1905 worked at Presbetary Duagh. John Kiely b1906 lived in Bronx, New York. Elizabeth Kiely b1909 worked in Mc Mahons Bar on Market Street for Jack McKenna's mother. She later worked at JP Kennelly's hardware shop in Main St. Lizzie as she was known was on a formidible local Camogie team. Nora Mary b1912 married Mossie Collins Abbeyfeale and reared a family in Abbeyfeale. Johanna b1908 lived at the Home place at College Cross. James was a twin of Johanna he was a Dental assistant to Dentist Bourson on Upper Church st. James or Jim died in his thirties. One by one the Kiely children were moved to College Cross where Nora Kiely's brothers and sisters helped rear the young family. By 1921 the House had been empty for a few years. The Young fatherless Kiely family had now fully relocated to their mother's home place at College Cross. In 1921 Fr Thomas Francis Stack sold the house to Marguerite Prendeville. Marguerite had lost her husband the previous year 1920 in the War of Independence. She bravely moved her five sons and one daughter to start a new life on Church st. The Country was at war. Church st had its share of strife with several shops being burned to the ground (Flavins, Breens and Jr Walshes). Murder, mayhem and mutiny ensued on Church st during that time.
Posted by: o'sullivan () http://www.odonoghue.co.uk/dphorum/read.php?1,1420,1420
Date: April 08, 2009 17:31
I'M RELATED TO O'DONOGHUE'S IN LOUGHFOUDER COUNTY KERRY . MORTIMER O'DONOGHUE BORN IN DUAGH PARISH COUNTY KERRY MARRIED MARY O'SULLIVAN OF LOUGHFOUDER KNOCKNAGOSHEL CO KERRY THEY HAD ABOUR 16 CHILDREN ONE DIED ,ABOUT 13 LEFT AND WENT TO AMERICA, 2 STAYED IN LOUGHFOUDER GEOFFREY O'DONOGHUE HE MARRIED CATHERINE GEANY OF LOUGHFOUDER THEIR DAUGHTER WAS CATHERINE O'DONOGHUE ,SHE MARRIED TIMOTHY O'MAHONY FROM BILLINARD THEY SETTLED IN LOUGHFOUDER . , THE OTHER WAS MORTIMER # 2 O'DONOGHUE HE MARRIED JULIA WALSH, THEY HAD MARY ,NORA, MORTIMER # 3 HE MARRIED CATHERINE HARTNETT FROM ABBEYFEALE, THEY HAD MORTIMER # 4 HE MARRIED ELIZABETH DOODY FROM KNOCKBRACK . ALSO MY COUSIN MARY GEANY 1837 OF LOUGHFOUDER MARRIED JAMES O'DONOGHUE FROM TOOREENAGOWAN THEY HAD JAMES 1871, JOHN 1872, MAURICE 1875, DENIS 1877. SON MAURICE O'DONOGHUE BORN 1875 MARRIED MY COUSIN CATHERINE O'MAHONY OF LOUGHFOUDER , THEY HAD JAMES , JOHN , JEFFERY, MAURICE, MARY BRIDGET , TIMMY ALL BORN IN LOUGHFOUDER . TIMMY IS STILL LIVING NOW IN 2009. ALSO MORTIMER # 5 O'DONOGHUE LIVES IN LOUGHFOUDER MY THIRD COUSIN . THE O'DONOGHUES IN MY FAMILY MARRIED INTO THE O'SULLIVANS, O'CONNORS, GEANYS, MAHONY'S , REIDY'S ALL ARE MY BLOOD COUSINS FROM LOUGHFOUDER KNOCKNAGOSHEL COUNTY KERRY , MOST BAPTIZED IN BROSNA ABOUT 5 OR 6 MILES FROM LOUGHFOUDER , SOME IN CASTLEISLAND ABOUT 4 MILES AWAY FROM LOUGHFOUDER . LOUGHFOUDER IS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD ABOUT 5 MILES FROM DUAGH , AND ABBEYFEALE . I HAVE BEEN THERE AND MET MY COUSINS . HOPE THIS INFORMATION MIGHT HELP SOME ONE . GOD BLESS
Re: Related to O'Donoghues in County Kerry
Posted by: O'SULLIVAN ()
Date: April 08, 2009 17:44
MARY O'SULLIVAN MARRIED TO MORTIMER O'DONOGHUE # 1 FROM DUAGH AND SETTLED IN LOUGHFOUDER . HER FATHER WAS JEREMIAH O'SULLIVAN FROM LOUGHFOUDER ,MOTHER MARY O'CONNOR FROM FAHADUFF COUNTY KERRY .HER BROTHER DANIEL O'SULLIVAN WAS MY GGG GRANDFATHER . ALSO RELATED TO THE CURTIN'S, OF LOUGHFOUDER . BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY MORTIMER O'DONOGHUES IN MY FAMILY IN LOUGHFOUDER ,I NUMBERED THEM 1, 2, 3, 4, AND 5 . INCASE SOME ONE WONDERS WHY I HAVE LIKE MORTIMER # 1 OR MORTIMER # 2 AND SO ON . THAT IS HOW I CAN TELL THEM APART . LOOKING TO FIND THE DESENDANTS OF THE 13 O'DONOGHUE CHILDREN THAT LEFT LOUGHFOUDER AND WENT TO AMERICA , THINK TO CHICAGO, BOSTON , MAYBE NEW YORK . ON THE MAP LOUGHFOUDER WILL SAY LACKBROODER IN COUNTY KERRY . A SMALL FARMING TOWNLAND . ALOT OF MY FAMILY MARRIED PEOPLE FROM ABBEYFEALE AREA . AN MOST OF THE FAMILIES IN LOUGHFOUDER MARRIED INTO OTHER FAMILIES IN LOUGHFOUDER .
Re: Related to O'Donoghues in County Kerry
Posted by: O'Sullivan ()
Date: April 09, 2009 17:50
You are Welcome , i throught the information on my cousins may be of help since alot of them are O'Donoghue's from County Kerry . i went to Loughfouder met all my cousins, have lots of information on the family and lots of pictures of my Ancestors. In july had the first O'Sullivan reunion here and alot of the cousins from Ireland came to it , I have been lucky my family kept alot of records and pictures . My cousin Mortimer O'Donoghue #5 in Loughfouder had his DNA done . loughfouder knocknagoshel was very near Duagh , Abbeyfeale, and Brosna as i'm sure you know . i went to loughfouder and walked in the house my GG Grandfather was born in 1862 . Also my gg grandmother was Mary O'Connor of Loughfouder ,her Aunt was Bridget O'Connor and she married an O'Donoghue . Bridgets father was Edward O'Connor . she had a sister Winifred, Margaret, brother Bryan,brother James, John, Terrence, Cornlius , Michael . i did speak to a Geoffrey O'Donoghue in Ardydonegan ,Duagh parish in County Kerry about 6 months ago and he told me he was told when he was younger that he had cousins in Knocknagoshel, not sure but think his Bridget O'Connor might be my Bridget O'Connor but that i'm not really sure about .There was so many O'Connor's . But all my other information is correct and i'm sure about like i said i do hope the information might help some one . i believe everyone should share what ever they know and help each other .
Re: Related to O'Donoghues in County Kerry
Posted by: o'sullivan ()
Date: April 09, 2009 18:23
1. MORTIMER O'DONOGHUE #2 OF LOUGHFOUDER KNOCKNAGOSHEL MARRIED JULIA WALSH 'CHILDREN
MARY O'DONOGHUE BORN 1868 MARRIED A HARRINGTON
NORA O'DONOGHUE OF LOUGHFOUDER MARRIED MICHAEL REIDY OF KNOCKACHUR KNOCKNAGOSHEL
MORTIMER O'DONOGHUE # 3 OF LOUGHFOUDER KNOCKNAGOSHEL MARRIED CATHERINE HARTNETT
2. MORTIMER O'DONOGHUE # 3 AND CATHERINE HARTNETT
JULIA O'DONOGHUE BORN 1905 MARRIED MIKE MURPHY
KATHLEEN O'DONOGHUE BORN 1906 MARRIED CORNELIUS O'CONNOR
MARY O'DONOGHUE BORN 1907 MARRIED JAMES O'CONNOR
SON MORTIMER O'DONOGHUE # 4 OF LOUGHFOUDER MARRIED ELIZABETH DOODY KNOCKBRACK
Re: Related to O'Donoghues in County Kerry
Posted by: Rod O'Donoghue ()
Date: April 09, 2009 22:03
Your cousin Mortimer and I had a common ancestor about 500 years ago. John (above) and I are also close.
My direct ancestors
Great grandfather Thomas married Mary Sullivan in England
Gggrandfather Thomas married Ellen Connor (his second wife) who was almost certainly from Glanageenty in Ballymacelligott parish. Children John, Catherine and Mary Ann. I do not know who his first wife was but they had a girl Julia. I suspect there were other children who died in the famine. They all left for London in 1851
I have been unable to find either Thomas (births or marriages) in the local records. It is possible that the family came from Cools, Aghadoe but really surmise based on christian names rather than fact. Recognised traditional family names are Thomas, John, Julia, Catherine, Mary, Mary Ann, Margaret, James
Lots of names from the area figure in the family history including Mahony, Murphy, Harrington from your earlier emails
Mike Donahue of Chicago is the closest 67 marker genetic match for me. I will email him to read this.
Re: Related to O'Donoghues in County Kerry
Posted by: O'SULLIVAN ()
Date: April 09, 2009 23:49
TIMOTHY O'MAHONY FROM BILLINARD THAT MARRIED CATHERINE O'DONOGHUE FROM LOUGHFOUDER MAY HAVE HAD A SISTER MARGARET , I DO NOT KNOW
I KNOW MIKE DONOGHUE WE E MAIL OFTON , HE AND MY COUSIN MORTIMER O'DONOGHUE WERE MATCHED ON THEIR DNA 37 I THINK IF I REMEMBER RIGHT .MIKE IS A REALLY NICE PERSON
MOST OF MY INFORMATION CAME FROM SOME FAMILY RECORDS, INFORMATION FROM COUSINS IN IRELAND , SOME NOW IN THERE 80'S AND ONE IN 90 .
SOME COUSINS HERE IN AMERICA , ONE WAS 92 AND HAD THE MIND OF A 30 YEAR OLD , HER GRANDMOTHER JOHANNA O'SULLIVAN MAHONEY FROM LOUGHFOUDER RAISED HER AND JOHANNA'S HUSBAND DENIS MAHONEY ALSO FROM LOUGHFOUDER . CATHERINE O'DONOGHUES DAUGHTER ELLEN O'MAHONEY MARRY DENIS BROTHER THOMAS , ALSO RECORDS ON FAMILY JOHANNA LEFT HER GRAND DAUGHTER AFTER HER DEATH IN 1929 . PLUS MY COUSIN MOTT IN LOUGHFOUDER NOW , GAVE ME SOME FAMILY INFORMATION .
Posted by: O'SULLIVAN ()
Date: April 11, 2009 00:42
INFORMATION ON THE CHILDREN OF MORTIMER O'DONOGHUE # 1 BORN IN DUAGH SETTLED IN LOUGHFOUDER KNOCKNAGOSHEL AND WIFE MARY O'SULLIVAN
BELIEVE THERE CHILDREN NAMES WERE , NOT IN ORDER
12 MICHAEL 1928
13. PATRICK 1829
14 MORTIMER 1830 BORN LOUGHFOUDER MARRIED JULIA WALSH DIED IN LOUGHFOUDER
15.GEOFFREY 1835 BORN LOUGHFOUDER MARRIED CATHERINE GEANEY DIED IN LOUGHFOUDER
16 CHILD DIED
IT WAS SAID IN THE FAMILY THAT 13 OF THE CHILDREN LEFT IRELAND , IT IS BELIEVED THEY WENT TO CHICAGO, BOSTON OR NEW YORK SOME OF THEM but some could have gone to other places .
Re: Related to O'Donoghues in County Kerry
Posted by: Donald Price ()
Date: April 11, 2009 01:50
I have found that my ancestors also came from Loughfouder, Knocknagoshel.I am not sure but the O'Donoghues that you mention may very well be related. My Ggrandfather is M.John O'Donoghue, born 25 Sept 1823. Don't know what the M. stood for. Story goes that he fell in love with a servant girl and the family not being pleased sent him to Canada. He arrived in Canada in 1849 and settled in Ontario. Apparently he did marry this servant girl and they had a family however she died and he remarried a girl from Ireland named Bridget Jane Farrel. Do any of these names ring a bell with the information that you have collected as I am having great difficulty in finding my ancestors on the O'Donoghue side of the family. Coming to Ireland the 2 May 09 and will be coming to Loughfuder, Knocknagoshel in search of my long lost ancestors.
Re: Related to O'Donoghues in County Kerry
Posted by: JimHorgan ()
Date: July 02, 2009 18:52
My wife is a cousin of Geoffrey O'Donoghue (we call him Joe) of Adydonegan, Duagh.
Here is some of what I know:
Geoffrey O'D married Bridget O'Connor and had 6 children: Patrick (1824-?), Charles (1825-?), Michael (1827-?), Joanna (1830-?), Jeffrey (1832-1916 died in Chicago), Bridget (1834-?)
Michael O'd amrried Johanna Laughliln - they had 6 children: Bridget (1873-1935 Chicago), Patrick (1881-1931 Chicago), Mary, Helen, Geoffrey and Catherine
Geoffrey married Lizzy Keane and they had 6 children: Hannah (1897-1977 USA), Denis (1898-1974 Pittsburgh), Michael(priest) (1901-1932 Reno NV), Patrick (?-1974), Mary Ann and Geoffrey
Denis is my wife's grandfather and he married Johanna Molyneaux from Behins and they had 9 children all of whom came to the US.
I'm still trying to put a lot of the O'Donoghue pieces together, so I'm glad i just found this forum.
Re: Related to O'Donoghues in County Kerry
Posted by: Brendan O'Donoghue ()
Date: September 03, 2009 12:14
Thank you very much, I am going to take the DNA test
My O'Donoghue's moved to Dromkeare, Waterville 1690, from Glenflesk after the Battle of the Boyne, they were granted land by the McCarthy Mor for their loyalty to him.
As my Mortimer was born c 1760/70 it is possible that he may have been called after his grandfather who may have been born in Glenflesk, I wonder were other O'Donoghue familys granted land in other parts of Kerry, they may have been a particularly loyal part of the clan, and thus rewarded. All the Mortimers may in fact be related.
I understand that there are some very good books in the National Library on our clan, including Old O'Donoghue family trees.
Maybe we should all do a bit of research, I have my Keating line back to 990AD, I researched my own line back to John Joseph born 1760 and there he was in a family tree in the library, A person had spent 30 years researching the tree from John Joseph back to the Gheardinis in Florence 990AD.
Cathy and I have converted all the LDS records for Glenflesk & Killarney into spreadsheets and databases, the database is good as you can carry out parent and sibling searches.
Glenflesk Christenings: 1820-1879
Glenflesk Marriages: 1830-1880
Killarney Christenings: 1780-1839
Killarney Marriages: 1892-1880
If anyone needs a lookup give me a shout
Evicted Tenants (County Kerry).
HC Deb 23 November 1909 vol 13 c178W 178W
§ Mr. FLAVIN
asked the Chief Secretary whether he can state the number of applications received from evicted tenants in Kerry for reinstatement in holdings, the number of applicants noted or approved of for reinstatement, and the actual number of evicted tenants put into possession of holdings in Kerry?
§ Mr. BIRRELL
One thousand and forty-two applications have been received by the Estates Commissioners from persons seeking reinstatement as tenants, or the representatives of tenants, evicted from holdings in county Kerry. Two hundred and ninety-seven of the applicants have been reinstated or provided with new holdings, the names of 121 have been provisionally noted for consideration in the allotment of untenanted land, 479 applications have been refused after inquiry, and 145, received since the date prescribed by the Evicted Tenants Act, have not been inquired into.
Kerry V Louth In All-Ireland Gaelic Football Final 1909. It was the first time Louth were Linster Champions since 1887,Half time Kerry 1-03 to Louth 0-3, Kerry won 1-9 to 0-6. Kerry Team were; T.Costello (Captain), M. McCarthy, F.J.Cronin, C.Healy, J.O`Sullivan, M.J.Quinlan, T.Rice, D.Breen, R.Fitzgerald, P.Dillon, C.Murphy, E.Spillane, J.Skinner, J.Mulanne, J.Kennely, B.O`Connor and J.McCarthy. The attendance was 15,000.On their way to the All Ireland Kerry beat Tipperaty, then played Limerick in Listowel ,score 2-18 to 1-02.Kerry had a disputed match with Cork which was given to Kerry following an objection, but Kerry insisted in playing Cork again and beat them on November 7th in Cork City. Before winning the All Ireland in 1909 Kerry had lost two All Ireland finals in a row.
Farewell to a native son of Kilbaha, Newtownsandes.
By Bill McEvoy
It is with profound sense of sorrow and deep regret that we record the passing of Frank Thornton, Chicago, Illinois on October 21, 1997. He was 89. Frank was born in Kilbaha near Moyvane, County Kerry on August 29, 1908. It was then and still is an area rich in Irish heritage, culture and tradition. He played a leading role in the founding of Comhaltas here in North America.
Of all the great personalities who illuminated the Comhaltas scene here in the early seventies, there is little doubt that Frank Thornton was one of the most memorable. An extraordinary man in every sense of the word, the very embodiment of a joyous spirit, in love with all things Irish, particularly traditional Irish music, song and dance. He brought consistent and unflagging enthusiasm into his work for Comhaltas. One could only gasp with wonder at the sustained energy with which he had been endowed.
At a very young age, Frank got his first lessons on the flute from his Uncle Jerry, a renowned flute player in that time period. He came to America in 1929 during the Great Depression. It was very hard to find work. He often recalled how he stood in line for hours at Montgomery Wards while job applicants were being interviewed. When my time came to be interviewed, I was extremely polite. The man asked me where are you from?' I said ‘Ireland.' Moved by his sincerity of heart and his meaningful approach, Frank was hired. He was one of a very few hired on that occasion. He went on to serve at Montgomery Wards for the next 9 years, when he joined Chicago Police in 1938. Most of his distinguished services with the police department was on foot patrol, in an area near Lawrence and Milwaukee Avenues, where he endeared himself to the business community and citizens alike. He retired from Chicago Police in 1965.
Almost from the time of his arrival in Chicago, Frank threw himself wholeheartedly into promoting Irish music. He started to teach tin whistle to the young people in his area. The basement room of his home would be filled. Lessons were free and many times he bought instruments as well for those who couldn't afford them. He went on to form the Thornton Fife and Drum Band, a colourful and spectacular group of musicians all dressed in green and gold, solid reflection of his great love for Ireland and for his native County Kerry. His three sons, Jimmy, Jerry and Frank were all members of the Band.
In 1959, Frank led a group of Chicago-based Irish musicians on a tour of Ireland. It was the first ever performing group from America. They performed 23 concerts in 27 days. The great Chicago Pianist, Eleanor Keane Neary, was part of that group.
This trip to Ireland would always have a profound bearing on Frank's life thereafter. The weather was just dreadful over the North Atlantic. The plane developed engine trouble and was forced to land at Gander, NewFoundland. Soon after departure, the trouble reoccurred and the plane had to return to Gander again.
Recalling the awful experience Frank said, ‘my thoughts went back to my mother who prayed daily for our safety. All on Board were praying the Rosary as the plane bounced from one air pocket to another. ‘I swore in my heart I would never fly to Ireland again.' However, this transatlantic experience and pledge for the future did not keep him away from the Emerald Isle. He made 12 more trips, mostly by boat.
In 1956, Frank thought the time had come for a more positive and unified association of Irish Musicians in the various cities of America. Together with a few distinguished musicians here, among them the late Ed Reevy of Philadelphia, Louis E. Quinn of New York, and Johnny McGreevy of Chicago, others too. He founded the l.M.A. Irish Musicians Association of America. Guided by Frank Thornton as its first president, the organisation quickly grew in strength and number. In 1963 there were 27 IM. clubs flourishing all across America. In 1969, Frank organised the first ever concert tour of Irish champion musicians from Ireland. This prestigious group was led by the then Comhaltas President Labhras O Murchú. This led to the founding of Comhaltas Ceoltóiri Eireann here in 1972, when the then Chief Comhaltas Organiser, the late Diarmuid O Cathain came here as the Ardchomhairle representative. He soon made contact with Frank Thornton, who supplied a list of names and contacts that played a vital role in the establishment of Comhaltas here, especially the Annual Concert Tours.
MULVIHILL may be of Kilbaha
North of the remote shores of Lake Manitoba in Canada, is the tiny village
of Mulvihill. It lies along what used to be the Canadian National Railway
line to Hudson Bay at Churchill and was a divisional point for the railroad.
In its heyday, Mulvihill had a train station, boarding house, cream grading
station, blacksmith shop, grist mill, trading post, butcher shop, coal dock,
fish storage shed, post office, church, a livery barn that could shelter
twenty teams, five stores, three schools and a dancehall. The homesteaders
built the first school in 1912. Roads were mainly rough trails. The growing
season was very short, the winters brutally cold. Wildlife was abundant.
They fished, hunted and gathered wild berries and mushrooms. They drove
oxen and horses. They grew grain and kept pigs, cattle, chicken and geese.
They enjoyed home-brewed beer, baseball, dances and frequent surprise
and card parties. The northern lights and natural beauty of the area graced
One of the families that settled in Mulvihill had been scheduled to board
The Titanic, but since the doomed ship was overbooked, they ended up on
another ship bound for Canada.
Mulvihill, Manitoba is one hundred miles north of Winnepeg on Highway
6, between Ashern and Eriksdale. The post office there was originally
called Mona. Around 1913 it was changed to Mulvihill, although oddly,
the Mulvihill Cemetery has a 1910 date. The town was named for a
Roman Catholic priest who traveled the district. Father Mulvihill was of
the OMI-Order of Mary Immaculate and was also the Reeve, similar to a
mayor, of the municipality of St. Laurent. Manitoba was settled by
French, Scandinavians, Irish, Scottish, English, Icelandic, Polish and
others. It is rich with the culture of the Métis (people of mixed Native
Canadian and European descent). Mennonites also colonized Manitoba.
At some point, much of the town was destroyed by fire. According to
clansman Ed Connolly, there are now only about ten houses and one
general store/luncheonette in Mulvihill. We know of no Mulvihills who
live there or are buried there. If anyone knows anything about the priest or
any clansfolk who might have lived in or near Mulvihill, please let us
Notes on Thomas FitzMaurice and Botany Bay
The following is from a printed article, undated, kept by David Gregory FitzMaurice (b 23 Dec 1908), given to him by his oldest brother Jack (John Loftus FitzMaurice b 9 Nov ____)
Thomas FitzMaurice, Kiltomey, Lixnaw, Co. Kerry, Ireland
Born about 1771, died about 1868. Transported to Botany Bay, Australia, England's Penal Colony, about the year 1795, for six years. About six month's voyage in a sailing vessel.
Grandfather of Mrs. Mary MacAuliffe, formerly Mrs. Patrick Quilter, whose Maiden name was O'Flaherty; FitzMaurice was her mother's father. Mrs. MacAuliffe is the narrator of the following:
FitzMaurice was present at a meeting of some members of the "Whiteboy" held in an upstairs room in a public house in Ahabeg, near Lixnaw, of which FitzMaurice's mother was the proprietor. The "Whiteboys" was an organization of young men who roamed the countryside at night, wearing white gowns, and whose objects were to intimaidate tithe gatherers and also to seize guns. Tithe gathererw - officially called "tithe-proctors" - were abhorrent to the mass of the peasantry, because they acted for the Protestant Ascendancy Church, which the peasantry, almost all Catholic, was compelled to support. If a man did not pay his tithe charge, the proctor could, and often did, seize the man's bullock or sheep and sell it on behalf of the Protestant Church.
At the aforsaid meeting in FitzMaurice's mother's house, some discussion was had about proposed raids to be made for arms, etc. some of the conversation was overheard by Ferdinand Lyon, a "Tithe-Proctor", who was a half-brother of FitzMaurice. Lyon took down the conversation and reported it to a magistrate. The magistrate, meeting FitzMaurice shortly afterwards, told him that he had a paper he wished him to sign. FitzMaurice foolishly signed it wothout reading it, or knowing its import.
Then FitzMaurice was arrested and put on trial, but would not divulge the names of those at the meeting, even though he was not generally supposed to be a Whiteboy himself. Lyon, the informer, being a Tithe-Proctor, had probably been raided by the Whiteboys, hence his desire to have the members arrested.
For two weeks previous to his trial, FitzMaurice was forced to stand in cold water up to his hips for two hours each day, in the hopes of breaking his will and making him disclose the names of those at the meeting. The trial was held at Tralee. In a further effort to break his will, FitzMaurice was placed in the stocks, but the Tralee shopkeepers put up their shutters in protest at this action, and all business places were closed.
At the time he stood trial FitzMaurice's oldest child was but nine months old. His wife attended the trial.
The great Daniel O'Connell happened to be in court during the trial, which, at that time, like most other trials of Irishmen, was only a judicial farce, and O'Connell asked and received permission to speak to the prisoner. In the excitement and confusion FitzMaurice was unable to remember the advice of O'Connell, althugh it is believed that the advice, if followed, would have freed him.
FitzMaurice was transported for six years. Little provision was made for feeding the prisoners during the long voyage. Fortunely, FitzMaurice's mother owned a grocery store and fully supplied him for the voyage. This fact enabled him to save the life of a fellow prisoner whose rations were exhausted during the voyage.
At the completion of his sentene FitzMaurice was faced with the problem of transportation home., for while his wife had sent him sixty pounds (about $300) for the trip, he never received it. But standing at the docks one day he saw a vessel about to sail for Englland, and he managed to make arrangements to work his passage home. His general knowledge of work around a farm stood him in good stead, and he had charge of the butcher's store during the voyage.
There was, of course, no advance notice of his arrival in Tralee in those days. However, an old friend recognized him, and seizing his hat, dashed through the town, yelling in Gaelic, "This is Tom FitzMaurice's hat!" A crowd quickly gathered, and, strange to say, one of the first to try to shake hands with FitzMaurice was Lyon. But on seeing this, one stout-fisted Kerryman belabored Lyon, with the remark that "No informer is worthy to shake the hand of such a patriot."
During his absence, his wife was never known to laugh.
End of Mrs. MacAuliffe's Narrative.
It is also known that FitzMaurice was met by a crowd of his friends as he approached his home, who drew the car in which he was traveling up to his own door.
Besides the charge of attending the meeting, FitzMaurice also was said to have allowed the Whiteboys to use his horses on midnight raids. FitzMaurice insisted that he never gave the horses-he knew nothing about it.
Thomas FitzMaurice had, among other children, his oldest son, John, who had a son, Thomas, whose son is John Paul FitzMaurice, whose son is John Loftus FitzMaurice, whose son is Desmond Gregory FitzMaurice, whose son is Kevin.
Direct Spearin line-Joe Spearin
Spearin ancestor Place & Date of Birth Date & Place of Death Spouse
Luke Spearin ?Limerick 1833 1900 Limerick Ellen Kenealy
Joseph Spearin Limerick 1873 Dec 3rd 1940 Limerick Mary Catherine O'Mahony
William Spearin Limerick 1907 April 1959 Limerick Patricia Keyes
Freemans Journal; Jan 1862, Miss Cronin from Clougheen, Killarney, Professed at Listowel Presentation Convent. Fr McDonnell officiated. The F J of 26th Oct 1864, reports death of Mother Teresa Kelly of Presentation Convent, Listowel, Miss Kelly entered in Killarney fifty years ago. When the Mount Mellary monks came to Killarney she helped to provide for them and she is still prayed for at Mount Mellary as a benefactor. She established Milltown Convent and stayed there till her 50th year, then with other sisters she established Listowel Convent about 20 years ago. Mother Theresa Kelly was known for her charity during the famine year’s and support for missions at home and abroad. F J of 17th Oct 1877, carries the report on the death in Listowel of Canon McDonnell PP. V.G.F. born in Dingle 1813 ordained 1844, he done great exertions during the famine, was involved in the opening of the Cathedral in Killarney, he was transferred to Listowel on the death of Fr Mahony in 1857. Canon McDonnell was struck down by illness for most of the past year. High Mass was celebrated by Archdeacon O Connell from Castleisland, assisted by Rev. m Scannell CC. Listowel, Rev. m Godley CC Listowel and Rev A Moynihan CC Listowel was master of ceremonies. Archdeacon Higgins PP Kenmare led the choir, Fr J Foran and Fr W O Callaghan were cantors. Among the priest were Franciscans Fr Arsenus and Fr Jarlathe of Killarney. Priests from the Diocese included; P Moriarty, Brosna; Fr Lonergan Duagh; Fr Mc Carthy Duagh; G Burke and G Barton Newtown; M O Sullivan and M Dillon, Ballylongford; D Foley Tarbert; M O Connor and T Lawlor Ballybunion; T Enright and F Cregan? Of Causeway; T Nolan and M Herlihy Lixnaw; G griffin Adm. Killarney; M Dillon Killarney; M W O Callaghan Ballymacelligott and from Tralee came, T O Connor, D McGillicuddy and P Pierce.
Listowel Poor Law Union was formally declared on the 27th March 1840 and covered an area of 326 square miles. Was governed by elected Board of 27 Guardians, 27 representing 21 electoral divisions. Abbeydorney, Ardfert, Ballyheigue, Ballylongford (2), Drumkeen (2), Duagh, Gunsborough, Kilconly, Kilfeighney, Kilflynn, Killahan, Killahinny, Kilmoyley (2), Kilshinane, Kiltomey, Knockanure, Lissleton, Listowel (3), Newtownsandes, Rattoo, Tarbert (2).
The Board also included 9 ex-officio Guardians, making a total of 36. The population in 1831 census had been 65,198
Listowel workhouse declared fit for the reception of paupers on 17th August 1944, fit for 700 inmates. It cost £5,980 plus £1,276 for fittings etc.
During the famine sleeping galleries were erected to accommodate 100 inmates. A fever hospital for 46 patients was erected.
American Community Survey found that 47.5 per cent of Scituate's 18,000 residents list their primary ancestry as Irish.
New Zealand Tablet, Volume XXIV, Issue 17, 21 August 1896, Page 17
The news of the death of Jeremiah Enright, which took place at Nightcaps on the 14th inst, was received with general regret in this district. The deceased, who was a comparatively young man, was born (writes an occasional correspondent) at Listowel, County Kerry, Ireland, and came to this Colony about twenty years ago. He resided for the last twelve or thirteen years in the Wrey's Bush district, where he was held in the highest esteem by all who knew him. He complained of a cold about ten days before his death, and, notwithstanding all that medical skill and careful nursing could do, he succumbed to his illness on the 14th of August. His funeral was one of the largest seen in the district. He was buried in the Wrey's Bush cemetery. The Very Rev. Father Walsh officiated at the grave.
New Zealand Tablet, Volume XXV, 24 December 1897, Page 9
Bartholomew Dowling, the writer of "Life's Wreck," was born at Listowel. County Kerry, about the year 1822. While still a child his parents emigrated to Canada, where his father died. Later the mother and children returned and settled in County Limerick, He wrote several poems for the Nation after its foundation. In 1848 he proceeded to California, where, after spending some time as a miner, he lived on a farm at Crucita Valley. In 1858 he was appointed editor of the San Francisco Monitor. In 1863 he met with an accident while driving, and soon afterwards died from its effects in St. Mary's Hospital, San Francisco. Dowling's best, and best known poem is probably "The Irish brigade at Fontenoy."
KERRY— A Klondyke Millionaire-— Mr Patrick Galvin, one of Klondyke's millionaires, has arrived in Listowel, whence he emigrated over twenty years ago to America, and where he experienced varying fortunes until he struck for Klondyke, where he became immensely rich. He refused £200,000 for some land he owns there and sold one of his claims for £20,000 before starting for Ireland. His account of the journey from the new gold country is most interesting. Mr Galvin, who was accompanied by his wife, travelled by the Dalton trail and had to tramp 374 miles, and Mrs Gaivin had to walk 150 miles during the journey. When starting from Klondyke they had eleven pack horses, and at the journey's end they had but four. The provision's too, ran scarce, and they had to subsist on flour and water for a considerable time.
Famous photographer: Timothy O'Sullivan was of Irish ancestry. It is known that as a teenager he worked in the studio of photographer Mathew Brady, . A veteran of the American Civil War in its first year,Tim O'Sullivan went photographing the civil war during the final three years of the conflict before setting out later on his cross-continental expeditions.
Timothy O'Sullivan, who used a box camera, explored the land in the 1860s and 1870s.
O'Sullivan died from tuberculosis at the age of 42 in 1882
I have been trying to find information about this man...my GG Grandfather. He appears to be born in Kerry and had a child with Bridget Kennelly in Kilbaha in 1868. I can find them both the 1901 cesus and him in the 1911 census in Direen but after that he disappears. I wonder in this might be him. This was found at https://www.familysearch.org/ but I am really not sure if it was him.
registration quarter and year:Jan - Mar 1912
estimated birth year:1835
age (at death):77
Cornelius and Bridget lived around Athea and attended the Parish church there but most of the children and Bridget immagrated to Kansas City. Dennie, their son and my G Grandfather, married Catherine O'Sullivan (Katie) daughter of Patrick O'Sullivan and Mary Mullane.
Thanks for any help that can be provided.
am hoping to find more information about my great-grandfather, Michael Sullivan, born around 1844 near Listowel, Co. Kerry. Unfortunately, I do not know the townland. With such a common name (and so little information that passed down to my family), it is VERY difficult to research him. On his death certificate his father's name is listed as "Michael Sullivan" and his mother as "Johanna Mulvhill." We also know that when he came to the the USA (around 1858) he was accompanied by his younger brother, Patrick. Family lore says that their father died and their mother remarried, and that there was 1 step-sister. Not sure if Johanna's maiden name was Mulvhill, or if the man she married after Michael died was Mulvihill. Also not sure of any other siblings that might have remained behind. But clearly Michael and Patrick left after their father (Michael Sullivan) died. Apparently they worked in upstate NY as indentured farm laborers. Michael met another Irish immigrant (Abigail Sheehan, also from Co. Kerry), and they married in the early 1860s. In the early 1870s they moved to Galesville, WI, and eventually (in the 1880s) to St. Paul, MN.
346 SALARIES OF MINISTER AND CONSULS TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND.
an undertaking to be of good behavior, and all the remaining internees were released
from confinement shortly before Christmas, 1916.
In February, 1917, a small number of persons were deported to England owing to
their seditious and pro-German activities, but these persons were not interned in
England; they were merely required to live in specified localities, and the Irish
Government bore the cost of their maintenance.
In May, 1918, it also became necessary to arrest and intern in England, for the same
reasons, a considerable number of persons, many of whom had been convicted of
participation in the rebellion of 1916, and sentenced to terms of penal servitude, from
which they were released by an amnesty granted by the King in June, 1917.