KNOCKANURE INFO 2
OLD CHURCH in Knockanure predates any Dominican arrival. However, the evidence in most of these refuge sites is that the friars lived like secular clergy and worked in the churches near to the houses of refuge. The administration appears to have turned a blind eye to secular clergy. Their particular interest was in breaking the religious orders. The main reason for this is that the religious orders were international organisations and open to continental influences contrary to the policies in Westminster. In Creggs, Milltown, Donore, Castlewellan, Sixmilebridge, Ballingaul, Longwood, Swords, Malahde, Thomastown, Killyon, Rathcabban, Boula, Mount Mary, Castlelyons & Kilcommac the friars were living and dressing as secular priests at that time - there is no reasonable explanation as to why Knockanure alone would be the only one that was different. Their poverty would have necessitated work in the area and, whilst it is possible that they never worked in the chapel at Knockanure they would certainly have worked in other chapels in the area as incumbents.
The arrival in Knockanure was probably at the invitation of the Stack family but sadly there are no documents to tell us anything about what was happening or how the friars arrived there or why Knocknure was chosen. The friars were also in possession of a house near Spa but the likelihood is that the bishop of Ardfert wanted help in more remote places of his diocese during those troubled times. The redundant friars of Tralee would have been a welcome help in the years between the Puritan era and the rebuilding of Catholic dioceses in the early 19th century. Sadly much of this story remains a series of speculations as records do not exist and living memory is long gone by now!
On Friday 25 April 2003.
Thomas Moore, the National Poet of Ireland was born in Aungier St., Dublin on 28th May 1779 and died on 25th February 1852. He was the son of John Moore and Anastasia Codd. Anastasia Codd was a native of Wexford but apart from that I have no knowledge of her ancestry, John Moore was born in Clounbrane, Moyvane and my information is that he attended a hedge school in Trien. The hedge school was at the left of the Trien road as you travel south and also at the left of the road leading up to O'Sullivan's of Trien. The teacher or hedge schoolmaster was a man by the name of Lynn, (he lived in a place called Ceathrú Beag, known as Sluice Quarter). To this day the place is known as Lynn's Meadow. Its origin dates back to the middle of the eighteenth century.
Both of Moore's parents were Roman Catholics, and naturally Moore was brought up as a Catholic. Rosetti describes John Moore as a tradesman, a grocer and spirit dealer. My Mother (who was a daughter of Margaret Moore and John Hanrahan) told me John Moore worked in Tralee as a draper's clerk and moved from there to Dublin. The Moores met a fate that was not unusual. Under British rule they were evicted, the land is now owned by Liam Nolan. My great-grandfather moved to Ahalahanna, in his death certificate he is described as a Weaver.
Thomas Moore was a man of small stature, but in his school days has been described as intelligent and lively. His primary school teacher was a Mr. Samuel Whyte who encouraged a taste for drama among the boys and Moore was a favourite of his. At the age of 14 Moore wrote a Sonnet to Mr. Whyte (his teacher) and it was published in a Dublin magazine.
The parents of Moore hailed the French Revolution, no doubt embittered by the experience and the knowledge of wrongs imposed on the native Irish. Moore entered Trinity College in 1794, which was a year after the Irish Parliament had it opened to Catholics. In College he became friendly with Robert Emmet and many others who would have aspirations kindred to those of Emmet. Even though Moore had not joined in anything that the college authorities would regard as a rebellious act, he was reprimanded and interrogated, but honourably refused to implicate his friends. Through his acquaintance with Emmet he joined The Oratorical Society, and also The Historical Society. He graduated at Trinity in November 1799.
His mother was the major influence in pressing Thomas to the Bar. His parents felt there was no future in poetry or in literature. Thomas went to England in 1799 and studied in the Middle Temple. He was called to the Bar but never practised, as he followed what his innate nature lured him to follow. Still we find Moore constantly associated with men and women of fashionable society. There was no doubt a stigma, a feeling of Moore's desires to be among those who regarded themselves as the top echelon of society. In fairness to Moore we must note that among Emmet and his friends he never got the least inclination to partake in any organised or physical uprising, so it is reasonable to assume that Moore would and did (in the words of Kipling) "Walk with Kings nor lose the common touch".
In 1802 Moore published his first volume of original verse, "Poetic works of the late Thomas Little". He received £60. In 1803, he was elected to the post of Registrar to the Admiralty Court of Bermuda. He reached here in January 1804. In March he appointed a substitute and left for a tour of the United States and Canada. He was not over impressed by his experience in America, perhaps his own more than their fault. He was impressed by Jefferson.
He came back to England in 1806, and was at one stage on the verge of a duel, but it was only a bottle of smoke. He met and had a disagreement with Lord Byron, but they reconciled. Moore was still patronised among the houses of fashion. The official substitute appointed by Moore in Bermuda was dishonest and as it was Moore's responsibility, Moore had to pay £6,000, which he did. In 1811, Moore married Miss Besssy Dyke, and it was a life-long mutual love. At a Thomas Moore Festival in Kilkenny City, I asked why a Moore festival, I was told it was in Kilkenny he first met Bessy Dyke.
He moved some time later from London to Derbyshire. He continued to write and publish many other pieces and all enriched him financially and otherwise.
His "Irish Melodies" had begun in 1799 when he got a publication of Irish Melodies by Bunting, Moore sought to preserve the tunes by writing the lyrics and his rendering of the songs or melodies enhanced his prestige. Rossetti also says his voice had hoarseness but was flute like in his singing. Longman, the publisher, paid in advance the large sum of £3,150 for Moore's poem "Lalla Rookh". "Lalla Rookh" was princess out in some oriental country that would be easier visit than get your tongue around the names of places and people.
In 1831, he wrote a like of Lord Edward Fitzgerald. In his latter years he resided at Sloperton Cottage in Wiltshire. One of his sons died in Algeria, another in 1842 of consumption. His mental powers collapsed and he died of Alzheimer's disease on 25th February 1852. It is my opinion that all his children pre-deceased him.
It is claimed that at one stage he said he was annoyed by his Kerry cousins asking for favours. It is also claimed that he never came to Moyvane even though he travelled the Mail Road and passed by Darrigone Cross. So he never visited his father's birthplace. He did visit the great house in Kilmeaney during the reign of the O'Mahonys.
The general belief is that it was while there he heard of Fitzgerald losing his way and falling in love with a McCormack girl whom he married. It is also claimed the Dauphine of France was a descendant of theirs.
They were the subject of Moore's poem entitled "Desmond Song" whose opening line is "By Feale's Wave benighted".
Whatever about his association with people of high society, his patriotic views were manifest in many of his poems. The Song of O'Ruark, closes with the lines "On our side is virtue and Erin, on theirs is guilt". "She is far from the Land" was referring to Sarah Curran, Robert Emmet's sweet heart. I remember my Aunt Kate Keane (Mrs O'Connor) when I was young reciting, "When vanquished Erin wept beside the Boyne's ill-fated river", and also, "The last Rose of Summer". My mother's favourite seemed to be "Oft in the Stilly Night". Personally I have a great love of the sweetness, the tenderness and the lovely flow of Moore's Melodies.
There was a man from Moyvane by the name of Connie Nolan who I got to know through our mutual interest in poetry. I asked him has poetry any virtues apart from flowery language? He replied - it has a refining influence on the mind. Certainly Moore's poems are within that category full of feeling and refinement.
P.S. The £6,000 debt was reduced to £750.
My research has been mainly focused on my Tydings ancestors but thought I would ask if anyone had any information on my Kennelly ancestors. I know very little about them, but thought it worth a shot. My Great Grandmother was Mary Kennelly, born approx. 1884, from Moyvane/Newtownsandes. Her parents were Cornelius Kennelly and Johanna Bunce. This is unfortunately, all I know. If, by chance, anyone has any information I would love to know. Also, as always, anything Tydings related would be most appreciated.
Hi I just discovered your web site and found it very interesting. My grandmother was Hannah Shine and she was born in Newtown in 1880. She emigrated to America in 1898 through Ellis Island. My husband and 2 children just returned to America last Thursday after spending 10 days in Ireland Six of which were spent visiting cousins in Asdee. We also spent time visiting my mother's first cousin Kitty Shine in the nursing home in Listowel. We visited the graveyard, church and drove past the house in Moyvane. It seemed very strange not going in this time over. I look forward to reading more of your articles on the website and would like to sign the guest book.
Dissette and Kennelly
The O'Shea's lived in Dingle, as did the Devanes. Pat Devane, Pat Foley and Michael Dissette were founding members of the Dingle branch of the Irish National League, later known as the Land League. Heffernan may have been from Listowel but he married a Dissett and their daughter Mary married a Patrick Walsh and they lived at Carrig Bridge, Ballylongford in the 1930's. Mary's mother may have been the daughter of Michael and Julia Dissett of Carrigafoyle, listed in Griffith's Valuation.
Mortuary Cards Kennelly
Date of death
30th July 1971 Denis Daly Knockane aged 59.
19th Aug 1968 John Daly Knockane aged 19.
21st may 1983 Catherine Shine Moyvane a 86.
4th Jan 1962 Rev H Cunningham born 1878.
23rd Aug 1969 Padraig O'Callaghan N.T. Knockanure.
13th Jan 1969 Teresa Kennelly Knockanure.
11th Oct 1977 Dora Goulding (nee O'Sullivan) Keylod.
17th March ? Julian McElligott.
6th Nov 1932 Rev R. A. Harnett.
11th June 1949 Cathy O' Flaherty.
24th May 1989 Sister Magdalen Kennelly age 72 yrs.
12th March 1991 Bill Kennelly Knockanure.
15th Mar 1957 Sister Stanislaus Kennelly age 37 yrs.
7th Jan 1946 Fr Denis J. Moloney Newbrighton born 1881.
21st Mar 1989 Ml Moloney Foxford.
25th July 1950 Jeremiah Kennelly M.C.C..
14th Feb 1992 Mary T. Kennelly Gortdromagowna,.
8th Aug 1977 Tom and Imelda Stokes Knockanure.
7th Feb 1972 Mary Jane Diggins Ballincloher age 78 yrs.
10th Aug 1974 Ml O'Donoghue Chicago and Duagh.
2nd May 1968 Timothy J. Kennelly Listowel age 51 yrs.
17th Apr 1977 James T. O' Kane Omagh age 52 (Moloney).
20th May 1958 Kenny Sheehy.
30th Aug 1957 Ellen Sheehan .
30th June 1973 Ml Diggin Lixnaw age 79 yrs.
24th Aug 1968 Patrick Barry Gortdromagowna.
28th Feb 1956 John Daly Knockane.
9th Mar 1969 Rev L. O'Dwyer P.P. Texas age 36.
29th Mar 1967 Fr William F. Scanlon ord. 15-6-1935.
7th Jan 1985 Mai Kennelly Skibereen age 73 yrs.
10th Dec 1982 Dermot Kennelly Skibereen.
Feb 1984 Daniel G. Kennelly Sycamore Road Dublin.
24th Nov 1982 Bridie Cunningham Court House Road Listowel.
20th May 1978 Danny O'Mahony, Ballydonoghue.
24th Nov 1985 Murt Daly Knockane Listowel.
24th Jan 1984 Fr Pat Daly Ordained 1946 for Salford Eng.
5th Nov 1983 Elizabeth Stokes, Gortdromagowna age 83 yrs.
13th Feb 1986 John Hanlon Ballydonoghue
22 Mar 1985 Paddy Barry Derry Listowel O'Sullivan.
26th July 1987 Mary Daly Duagh age 93 yrs.
5th Feb 1982 Peter McMahon Ballybunion age 32 yrs.
5th Aug 1968 Ellen O'Mahony Ballydonoghue age 89 yrs.
8th May 1988 Jack Flavin Coolard age 78 yrs.
16th Apr 1988 Eileen Galvin Daly Knockane Listowel.
4th May 1988 Mary Jo Daly Foynes and Duagh.
1968 Mother Gerard Kennelly buried Dingle.
27th May 1946 Mary O' Riordan .
13th Dec 1941 Dr Lawlor Ardfert.
6th June 1943 Stephen Scannell Tralee ?.
11th Oct 1988 May Galvin Gortacloghane Listowel.
4th Dec 1988 Bridget Galvin.
15th July 1988 Mary Kennelly [nee Kennelly] Main St Listowel.
22-3-1985 John Mc Mahon Lisaniska.
21st Nov 1985 Patrick Scanlon aged 65.
1962 K Van Laer
8th July 1957 Rev Crishan aged 77.
28 Jan 1984 Mary Ann Kirby aged 82.
12th July 1953 Fr Daniel F Collins Ballinasloe.
Oct 1964 Fr John Murphy All Hollows aged 67.
22-3-1983 Michael Mulvihill.
18-1-1986 Ellen Leahy.
15-12-1961 Bridget Moran Keylod.
5-6-1984 Tom Kennelly Knockanure aged 66.
18-1-1984 Mrs Ellen O Connor aged 97.
16-4-1986 Fr Tom Moloney Ord June 13th 1943.
16-4-1960 Mary Daly Knockane aged 73.
9-4-1943 Nora Danaher Woodcliffe House aged52.
5th Nov 1983 Elizabeth Stokes Gortdromagowna aged 83.
26th Oct 1983 Dan Stokes Knockanure
16-1 -1977 Pat Moran Keylod a 59.
4th April 1966 Fr Tom Daly Knockane born 1928.
28 May 1987 Sean Bunyan Ballydonoghue
24th June 1981 Maurice Harnell, Leitrim West aged 72
3rd Oct 1972 Pat Scannell, Listowel west aged 84
4th Sept 1984 Willie Curtain, Kilacullan aged 16
5th Aug 1987 Dan F Leahy
Samuel Lewis in 1830 reports Knockanure had a small Thatched Church with a School attached, Griffith Valuation 1850 John Byrne had school valuation 10 shillings,
Michael Mulvihill had school c 1834, Also hedge school at Trien and at Connors Gortdromagowna,
1868 to 1873 teachers Casey, Keane & Molyneaux,
Boys school records burnt when school went on fire,
1874 to 1917 Maurice Casey, to 1923 Jer Carroll, to 1903 Elizabeth O Mahony, to 1918 Tim Sullivan, Later Harnett for a short time, to 1919 Joan Flaherty, to 1923 Mary Mc Mahon, to 1928 Tom Callaghan, to 1933 Julia Flaherty, to 1953 Paddy Callaghan, to 1957 Miss J J Horan, to 1968 Miss M O Callaghan, to 1969 Cormac O Leary, to 1965 Kate Finucane, to 1972 Mairead O Callaghan, to 1990 Mary O Carroll,
Moyvane Murhur Teachers
John Shanahan, Margaret Lawlor, Elizabeth & Alice Madden, Tom Enright, David White, Pat Shine, Elizabeth Mc Carthy c1863, Denis Connor, John Rourke, Jim Barry came 1880, Tom Carr, Dan Mulvihill,
Joan Hederman to 1889, Bridget Shine to 1880, Joan Fitzmaurice to 1885, Lizzie Gleeson to 1926, Nora Scanlon to 1934, Elizabeth Nolan to 1946, Bridie Barrett to 1958, Mary B O Connell to 1964, Mary O Carroll to 1964,
Some teachers: Robert Jones c1901, Dan Mulvihill & John O Rourke to 1904, Maurice O Claochlaighe to 1941, Joe Moriarty to 1930, Kathleen Mulvihill to 1945,Tim Buckley to 1941, Tom o Connell to 1944, Mary Shine to 1939, Sean Barrett to 1954, Padraig O Sullivan to c193?, Cormac O Leary to 1953, Mary B O Callaghan to 1971, Noel O Connell to 1961,
Tom O Callaghan 1929 to 1944, Mary B Dinneen 1929 to 1945, Mary Collins to c1951, Dorothy O Sullivan to 1964,
Aughrim School c1850 under The Church Education Society & Rev R Fitzgerald,
Samuel Lewis in 1830 reports Near Newtownsandes Large School House erected at the expense of Fr J Long PP. The Board of Education allows £12 per year to support the School.
Knockanure School Girls c1890.
Brid Ahern, Mary Ahern,Mary Ahern,Ellie Ahern, Mag Ahern, Brid Buckley, Mgt Buckley, Eliz Buckley, Kate Buckley, Kate Broderick, Mary Broderick, Brid Broderick, Mary A Buckley, Kate Brosnan, Han Buckley, Mary Brosnan, N Broderick, Ellie Broderick, Ellie Barry, Joan Barry, Mgt Broderick, Mary Buckley, Nora Buckley, Han Collins, Mary Carroll, Mgt Collins, Ann Carroll, Mary Connor, Brid Costelloe, Mgt Connor, Han Connell, Ellen Costelloe, Brid Carroll, Julia Cronin, Jna Costelloe, Julia Collins, Mgt Collins, Mgt Cronin, Nano Cronin, Mary Custelloe, Ellen Connor, Mgt Costelloe, Nano Connor, Nora Connor, Kate Connor, Brid Carroll, Jna Connor, Mary Carmody, Mgt Connell, Brid Creed, Mary and Kate Costelloe, Kate and Brid Connor, Mary Doolin, Mary Dowd, Mary Drewry, Kate and Jna Dillon, Mary Dee, Nora and Mgt and Ellie Dillon, Kate and Bridget Driscoll, Mary Dore, Mgt Dee, Mary ,Jna,and Brid Donaghue, Ann Dowd, Mgt Dore, Cath, Mgt, Ellen, Han, Brid, Jna, and Mary Enright, Ellie Egan, Mgt Egan, Mgt and Kate Enright, Jna Flaherty, Han Fitzgerald, Mary Fealy, Nora and Jna Flaherty, Mgt, Mary, Liz, and Ellen Fitzgerald, Brid Flaherty, Kate Fealy, Brid Fitzgerald, Han Fitzgerald, born c1886, Han and Cath Flaherty, Mary and Mgt Finucane, Mary Fitzmaurice, .
Knockanure National School Opened 26-4-1874.
Teachers c 1890 Julia Flaherty, Joan Mc Mahon, and Mrs Casey.
Notes taken at National School Exhibition held in Listowel.
Nora Shanahan, born 1914 Clounmacon, Mary Walsh Beale born 1919.Ann Moloney Castlegrace Co Tipperary born 1916.Peggie O Dell born 1922. Rita Shine Creamery Managers daughter. Sarah Barry Newtownsandes came in 3rd Class. Mgt Barry b1916. Joan Horan and her sister came to Knockanure their Guardian a Pensioner. Noreen Hayes School Teacher Knockalucka 1926. Mary Kennelly Shopkeepers daughter 15-10-1918 in 5th Class. Mgt Horgan and K Sullivan at Knockanure School 1931. And 1941 respectively . Mary Synan b1924, Mgt Synan b1922. Mary Kennelly Finuge 1915. Nora and Mary Kennelly born Finuge 1915 .
Knockanure Village deaths
DEATHS: This time of year we remember some deceased Knockanure Village inhabitants: Padraig, Bessie, Fr Austin and Tony O Callaghan; Jack Cronin and Nell Kelliher; Dan, Mag, Hannie and Jackie Enright; Con, Janie, Neilie, Mossy, Jerry and Rita Clancy and Hannie Casey their aunt; Mick and Mary Flavin, Theresa and Bill Kennelly; Jerry, Nell and Tead O Connor; Ned and Nora Mulvihill; Josie Horan; Mike Flynn; John, Ellie, Mary, Jim, Pats, Bill and Jack Moore; Michael Cunningham; Mick and Mai Barry; Jackeen and Nora (Kelliher) Ahern lived across from new school; Jack, Maryanne, Michael and Mary O (Gorman) O Carroll; Pat Joe, Jack and Dan Stokes; Lizzie O Keeffe later married Joe Stokes; Tim, Moll, Jimmy, Jackie, Peg, Mary, Neddie, and Mickey Cronin; Mrs Ahern and grandson Jimmy; Gertrude (Fennell) Kelliher who later married Jackeen Ahern and Mary Agnes Kelliher; Josephine Kelliher, Mickeen and Noreen; Jer Nolan; Paddy Ahern and Shone Ahern.
THE DAWNING OF THE DAY
By; Paddy Drury
0, Holy Ireland, suffering still Your troubles now are great, From tyrants trained to shoot and kill; Whose mind are filled with hate; Who sold their souls for foreign gold To rob and steal away; It’s no wonder that our hearts are sad At the dawning of the day.
Sons of North Kerry, proud and true Step forward, every man; You know the foreign bloodhound crew, The murderous Black and Tan Who shot young Lyons and Dalton And Walsh, the proud and gay, As they left their gallant comrades At the dawning of the day.
On Gortaglanna’s rugged height Surrounded by that crew, How could they stand, how could they fight, What could our martyrs do? They showed no fear when death was near, When the tigers sought their prey, But our blood ran cold when the tale was told At the dawning of the day.
But Kerrymen are fighting still From Dingle to Tralee; I’m proud to be a Kerryman And I’m proud of sweet Athea; I’m proud of Lyons that noble lad Who gave his life away As he left his gallant comrades At the dawning day.
When writing down the Roll of Fame In old Ireland’s history, With green and gold illume the name Of gallant brave Con Dee. I’d give my life to clasp his hand And ‘tis with him I would stay And fight by his side for my native land At the dawning of the day.