Small Sources 2: Tarbert (Co. Kerry) schoolchildren 1809
Posted on August 20, 2013 by jim
A list of 39 schoolchildren in Tarbert, Co. Kerry in 1809 from NLI Ms 17,935 (5). if you make a connection, we would love to hear about it to jim.ryan (at) Flyleaf.ie
‘A list of the Scholars educating (sic) at the English school founded at Tarbert by the Governors of Erasmus Smith’s Schools. May 1809.
Sarah Fowler (?)
James Fowler (?)
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Home Reading Room History & Heritage Pages in History An Mangaire Sugach: The Limerick Leader 1944-50 Heritage of the Irish Language in Limerick Wait till Cork meet ye - 3rd July 1948
Wait till Cork meet ye - 3rd July 1948
ODDS AND ENDS
"Wait Till Cork Meet Ye": Text Version
3rd July 1948
(By "AN MANGAIRE SUGACH")
Hilaire Belloc once said that the proper way to write a book was to begin at the end. I find myself doing something like that now; for tho' this is the top of the column, you may know that, it was the last piece to be written. In fact, it is being penned in Castleconnell, where a wonderful Gaelic Week is in progress. This evening I saw the lads and lasses of the district trip it "on the light fantastic tow" on a large platform or dancing deck beside the road. Do you know –- I often think that one of the greatest blows struck against rural Ireland was the of the cross-roads dance. It gave rise to a commercialised dance-hall, and left the countryside without a musician.
HEARD AT THE MATCH
At the match, in Cork, last Sunday, I happened to be sitting in the middle of a bunch of very enthusiastic supporters of the rival teams. It is far better that the supporters are mixed like this than that one side of the field should be appropriated by, say, Limerick, and the other by Tipperary. The most vocal of the Tipperary followers were three fair maids. One of them had come armed with a flag, another with a cap on which was displayed a picture of the Tipperary team; and the third, for a reason that I cannot find out, carried a large road map of Ireland, a notebook and a fountain pen. As the score mounted against Tipp. In the first half they looked disappointed; and when Limerick scored still another goal, someone taunted them saying: "Why aren't ye waving the flag" Quickly one of the lasses turned and said: "Ah, wait till Cork meet ye!"
That was a threat that even the most optimistic Limerick supporter could not make little of. But coming home in the train I met a man who thought little of the Lee men. He opened our carriage door, stood there smiling blandly, and said: "Excuse me." "We beat them." He prepared to go saying: "Good-bye, now." He didn't go, though. He came back again.
"We'll beat them," he said again; and if we do I don't give a d-n what happens after -– Excuse me, missus" (this latter addressed to a lady in the carriage). "Well, good-bye now," he said for a second time. Did he go? Not a bit of it. He came back once more. Eleven times in all he said goodbye. Eleven times eleven he told us they'd beat Cork. Eleven times, eleven times eleven, he said: "Excuse me, missus," when carried away by sheer enthusiasm at the prospect of the defeat of Cork, he used what he considered to be strong language. He wouldn't have been overawed by the threat: "Ah, wait till Cork meet ye!"
In his notes "Tir is Tenaga," on June 19th, my friend, "An Cabac Rua," had something very interesting to tell. It was the story of his recent meeting in Knockaderry with a fine old Irishman, who might be described as a native Irish speaker from Limerick. An t-Uasal Mac Uaid spoke the Irish he had learned from his father in Ath an t-Sleibhe in West Limerick. When the first branch of the Gaelic League was formed in my native district, in 1907, it included among its first members a native Irish-speaker from this very district of Ath an t-Sleibhe or Athea. All this leads up to something I've long been pondering on: When did Irish die as a spoken language in County Limerick, and where in the county was it longest spoken?
A NEW COMPETITION
My next competition will deal with this aspect of the story of the language in Limerick. These few remarks are by way of a preliminary announcement. Full particulars will be published later. In the meantime, you could get busy noting anything of interest: accounts of the last people who spoke Irish in your district, and how long ago that was; accounts of people who sang songs in Irish, or of churches where Irish sermons were preached. You might hear of houses where old books in Irish were kept, or of people who could read them – I don't mean books published since the founding of the Gaelic League. Collect the Irish words in every day use about you – amadan, oinsach, ciotog, buala-baisin, gabhairin rua, buachallan buidhe, etc. I have collected more than 300 words and phrases in my own locality. You'll know the kind of material that will be suitable. This should prove an interesting competition, and valuable prizes will go to the winners.
Wait till Cork meet ye - 3rd July 1948
SONG OF THE WEEK
The song of the week comes from the prize-winning collection of Miss Brigid Corr, Foynes. It was also received from a kind reader in Ballygiltinan to whom I owe a letter – as I do to about a dozen more. Mea culpa! Mea culpa! It is a very interesting piece, and up to now was unknown to me. It is called:
My name is Mac Sheehy, from Feale's swelling flood,
A rapareerover by mountain and wood;
I have two trusty comrades to serve me at need,
This sword by my side, and my gallant grey steed.
Now where did I get them – my gallant grey steed,
And my sword, keen and trusty, to serve me at need?
This sword was my father's – in battle he died,
And I reared my bold Isgur by Feale's verdant side.
I've said it, and say it, and care not who hear,
Myself and grey Isgur have never known fear;
There's a dint in my helmet, a hole thro' his ear-
'Twas the same bullet made them at Limerick last year.
And the soldier who fired it was still ramming down,
When this long sword came right with a slash on his crown;
Dar Dhia! He will never fire musket again,
For his skull lies in two at the side of the glen.
When they caught us one day at the Castle of Brugh,
Our black-hearted foemen, a merciless crew,
Like a bolt from the thunder-cloud Isgur went through,
And my sword – ah, it gave them what long they may rue.
Together we sleep under rough crag or tree,
My soul! There were never such comrades as we,
I, Brian the Rover, and my two fiends at need –
This sword by my side, and my gallant grey steed.
Can any reader tell me who was this Brian Mac Sheehy, the raparee, or what is the story of the deeds recounted in the song?
Another Tan War Song - 14th Jan 1950
Another "Tan" War Song: Text Version
(By AN MANGAIRE SUGAC
Travels in Ireland. Johann Georg Kohl First edition [xii+417 pages] Bruce and Wyld, 84 Farringdon St. London (1844)
Travels in Ireland
Author: Johann Georg Kohl, File Description
The Lakes of Killarney
‘To pick up’—Crime in Kerry—Fog-landscape—Travelling Mania—Killarney—the Upper and Lower Lakes—Environs of the Lakes—The Gap of Dunloe—Macgillicuddy's Reeks—Kerry Horses and Straw Harness—Turf-bog on the Mountains—Goats and Wolves—Lakes on the Mountains—Mountain Dew—Rounded Rocks—Excursion on the Upper Lake—An Enchanted Kingdom—Colour of the Shores—Islands in the Upper Lake—Robbing the Eagle's Nest—Tamed Eagles—Faithful Temperance Men—The Lower Lake—O'Donaghue—Innisfail—Trees and Ruins—Trouble in Vain
I never beheld the beauteous golden stars of heaven with more angry eyes than on the morning of the fifth of October, as, equipped for my journey, I stood alone and undisturbed in the street of Tralee, whilst minute after minute elapsed without the arrival of the mail-coach, which was here to ‘pick me up,’ and convey me to Killarney. At last I looked at my watch, and then discovered, to my great annoyance, that the careless waiter had driven me out of bed and into my boots, out of the sheets into my travelling cloak, at four instead of six o'clock. The God of Sleep was now too far gone to be recalled. I therefore left my luggage in the coach-office, with a request that it might be transferred to the coach on its arrival, and wandered forth on foot, to pass the time and be ‘picked up’ on the road. It was a beautiful October morning, and as the stars looked down so friendly on me, in despite of my vexation, I at length became reconciled to them, and in the society of these thousands of beautiful worlds, I plodded along my lonely road into the county of Kerry.
The Miseries and Beauties of Ireland
Author: Jonathan Binns
Jonathan Binns, The Miseries and Beauties of Ireland (London 1837). (Available on www.archive.org).
Tarbert — Noticeable objects on the Shannon — Mount Trenchard — Droves of fattened pigs detained by the storm — View from near Tarbert House — Trade of Tarbert — State of the people in Lower Conello — Cabins, fuel, and clothing — Emigration — Middlemen — Prices of provisions — Blood of calves — Revengeful feelings of the peasantry, connected with the taking of land — Cabins — Conacre — The golden vein — Rent of land about Tarbert — Fuel — Mr. Maxwell Blacker — Lislactin Abbey — Listowel — Catholic devotees — Irish fights — Lixna Castle — Sir William Petty — Abbey O'Dorney — Tralee — The funeral cry — Ballyseedy — James O'Connell's estate — Castle Island — Arrival at Killarney.
From Limerick I went by steamer down the Shannon as far as Tarbert (situated at the north western corner of the county of Limerick), a distance of thirty-six miles, the fare being three shillings. After leaving the former place, the river gradually expands into a magnificent stream, its banks abounding with modern villas, old castles, and a variety of interesting objects that demand
the constant attention of the stranger. We passed Mount Trenchard, the seat of Mr. Spring Rice, an old-fashioned building of no great beauty, but finely situated; Aghenish Point, formerly a place of security for robbers and smugglers, but battered down by cannon; Patrick's Hill, on which are ruins and a burial-ground; and the romantic village of Glyn, and Glyn Castle, belonging to the Knight of Glyn, Sir John Fitzgerald, whose estate here is said to be worth £4000 per annum. This estate was defended by a former Knight of Glyn against Sir George Carew in 1600, and its garrison put to the sword.
Opposite to Askeaton River, the Shannon, on the Clare side, expands into a large lake or bay, into which the waters of the Fergus, after leaving Ennis, and flowing in a southern direction, empty themselves. The bay averages three or four miles in width, and is interspersed with islands. Near Tarbert, the Shannon contracts to about the width of a mile, and forms a very safe anchorage; the building of a pier in this bay was contemplated some time ago.
We landed on the north side of the Shannon amongst a drove of fattened pigs, which had been detained three days in consequence of the storm. They were in a pitiful condition; many of them could not stand, others walked on three legs, and all night long we were disturbed at the inn at Tarbert by the dismal screams of the poor animals, who adopted this vociferous method of lamenting the loss of their warm beds and comfortable meals, and of protesting against the uncivil proceedings of the people who loaded them on their flat carts, tying their legs to each end of the conveyances. The smell, the dirt, and the horrible noise, of this immense herd of swine, formed a sad drawback to the pleasure prepared for us in the romantic scenery of the Shannon.
Editor’s note: After the Battle of Bull Run, Ulysses S. Grant was appointed colonel of a regiment of infantry. In this excerpt from his personal memoirs, he reveals the anxiety he felt as he led his men in their first serious expedition in Missouri and approached a group of Confederate irregulars led by a colonel named Harris.
As we approached the brow of the hill from which it was expected we could see Harris’s camp, and possibly find his men ready formed to meet us, my heart kept getting higher and higher until it felt to me as though it was in my throat. I would have given anything then to have been back in Illinois, but I had not the moral courage to halt and consider what to do; I kept right on.
When we reached a point from which the valley below was in full view, I halted. The place where Harris had been encamped a few days before was still there and the marks of a recent encampment were plainly visible, but the troops were gone. My heart resumed its place. It occurred to me at once that Harris had been as much afraid of me as I had been of him. This was a view of the question I had never taken before, but it was one I never forgot afterwards. From that event to the close of the war I never experienced trepidation upon confronting an enemy, though I always felt more or less anxiety. I never forgot that he had as much reason to fear my forces as I had his.
Kerry Famine Evictions
August 2, 2017 12 Comments Written by Kay Caball
Evictions occurred in Ireland when tenants could not pay the rent? While this might be the simplistic view it is not the full story. Inability to pay the rent was usually the reason, but there were also a number of other explanations. Unreasonable and unjust rent increases or landlords consolidating land from smallholdings that had been divided and sub-divided was another reason. Quarrels and disputes between the chain of 'middlemen', agents and owner/landlord often ended in the ejectment of the unfortunate tenant who became a pawn in their disputes.
The Irish Famine Eviction project has to-date logged details of over 400 evictions carried out during the years 1845-1852 countrywide. Ten of these eviction sites are listed for Kerry with one hundred and thirty two families dispossessed. Trinity College was the benefical landlord of all of these particular estates and while we don't have exact details for all of the evictions, in the case of one which I chanced on this week, while researching a Kerry ancestry in the Civil Parish of Killury, the reason was a dispute between the immediate middleman and the chain of middlemen appointed by Trinity College. In May 1849 the Leinster Express reported that Trinity College, the largest landowner in Ireland, had issued eviction notice against a number of tenants:
The Munster News and Limerick and Clare advocate Wednesday August 24, 1887
House of Commons – yesterday
The Chancellor of the Exchequer, replying to Mr. Cox, said that £5,000 assigned for the
Encouragement of horse and cattle breeding in Ireland would be paid to the Royal Dublin
Society, whose show now being held at Ballsbridge was he was glad to say likely to be a special success in consequence of the prospect of assistance to be given by the
Irish National League.
The Rev. J. Ambrose presided. The case of Maurice Culhane whose cattle were seized on by his landlord, was considered, when it was proposed by Denis Lynch and seconded by Denis Liston ; “That having considered the case of Mrs. Widow T. Culhane and her treatment at the hands of her landlords, Mr. Alexander Tallis Yielding and Mrs. Hugh Yielding (the wife of Mr. Hugh E. Yielding of Newpark, Croagh, in the county of Limerick), we respectfully ask the committee of the Kilcoman branch of the League to afford us an opportunity for a consultation with a view to bringing public opinion to bear upon the landlords for their action in accumulating costs to the amount of £18 upon a rent of £25, in seizing only £50 or £60 worth of cattle to satisfy same.”
“That the Rev. Chairman be deputed to communicate with the Kilcolman branch to arrange time and place of proposed conference which he very kindly consented to do”
Taken from “The Munster News and Limerick and Clare Advocate”,
April 2, 1887
LOCAL HISTORY 5
Nov. 1920; Two RIC men (Constable William Muir and Constable Coughlan) were captured by the Ballylongford Company of the IRA. Constable Muir were brought to Moyvane where he were guarded by the local company. The British Army issued an ultimatum that Ballylongford would be razed to the ground if two men were not released and the Kerry No. 1 Brigade HQ ordered their release. Constable Muir later committed suicide (27th December 1920).
24 July 1904 Rev. F Magner CssR a native of Limerick, Consultor General to the Redemptorist Order, arrived in Limerick from Rome with the Superior General , he preached at St Alphonsus Church in Limerick on 24th July 1904. He served in Limerick for several years and received congratulations from his many old friends.
Fr Magner was spiritual director of the Arch Confraternity of the Holy Family and was also Rector of the Community.
David F. Keating was born c 1914 in Newtownsandes. He died on 20 Sep 1949 in Chicago. David, a patrolman in the Chicago Police Department, was shot dead in the line of duty. He was 34 years old. His mother Catherine Finucane was born on 20 April 1875 in Ardmore, Carhoonakineely, Tarbert. She died in Oct 1949 in Chicago. Catherine married Robert Keating c 1903.
5 Oct 1822 - Petition of Patrick Kelly, Ballybunion, County Kerry, to Richard Wellesley, 1st Marquis Wellesley, Lord Lieutenant, Dublin Castle, requesting appointment to post of employment under Government: claims that he succeeded in bringing to justice the killers of his wife Elizabeth Stonehouse ‘who had been barbarously and inhumanely murdered on the night of the 8th of July last, by her son in law, James Casey and one Michael Hennessey’; indicates that his wife had an annuity of forty guineas flowing out of lands of Lahardane, barony of Iraghticonnor, which provided the motive for her murder, and expresses fear that ‘his own destruction is already contemplated by the friends & accomplices of said murderers’. Statement signed and attested by 12 persons.
Does anyone have a John Harnett married to a Mary Roche in their family tree? They are thought to be from Dromtrasna Hartnett. Get back to any member of the committee if you can help. We also got an email “ I am attaching pictures of a medal in my possession that was awarded to my uncle William Harnett in 1912 together with £30, which was a lot of money in those days, when he was 17, for being 1st in Irish in Ireland. It is engraved "Senior grade William Harnett first in Irish 1912" on one side and "Awarded by the board of Intermediate Education Ireland" on the other. He was apparently very clever and got some sort of scholarship to the "North Mon" in Cork. Unfortunately he joined the navy in World War 1 and died in Egypt where he is buried in Ismailia. My grandfather was also William Harnett, he was born in Abbeyfeale about 1862. He was in the police and was stationed in different towns
around the country, so my father Christopher was born in Tipperary town in 1901. His older brothers were John, Patrick, Daniel and William, names which seem to recur in the Harnett family. The family moved to Carrick-on-Suir where their next-door neighbours were the Clancys, later to become famous as The Clancy Brothers. My father was very friendly with them and it was in their house that he met Mrs. Clancy's niece Alice Drohan, who was my mother. Liam Harnett, Dublin.
James Collins, father of former minister and MEP, Gerard Collins, was a commanding officer in Abbeyfeale during this period. In 1955 he submitted a 40 page document to the collection, giving a first hand account of the many actions and engagements that took place in the locality and surrounding areas during “The Troubles.”
The original documents can be viewed at http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie
This is the year of Tralee’s 400, the Charter given by King James in September 1612.
Tom McEllistrim Senior was elected to the Dail first in 1923 and only took his seat in 1927. His father was also a member of Sinn Fein and was in the Rural District Council. Tom was a founder member of Fianna Fail and held his seat in the Dail until 1969. Tom Junior took over the seat in 1969 and held it till Feb. 1987 when he lost his seat by 4 votes. Tom came back to the Dail in June 1989 and lost again in 1992, he was a minister from 1979 to 1983. Tom McEllistrim became a member of Kery County Council in 1967 and was involved in many of its committees.
Niall Collins is a nephew of Gerard Collins, TD for Limerick West from 1967 to 1997. Born in Abbeyfeale in 1938 he was educated locally at St. Ita’s College, Patrician College, Ballyfin and at University College Dublin where he founded the Kevin Barry Cumann of the Fianna Fáil party in 1957. He was Chairperson from 1957 to 1961. The Kevin Barry Cumann was and continues to be the largest party political Cumann in the Country. Between 1965 and 1967, Gerard served as Assistant General Secretary of Fianna Fáil. He was elected to the Dáil in a by election in 1967 created by the death of his father. He was appointed Parliamentary Secretary (now known as Junior Minister) at the Departments of Industry and Commerce and the Gaeltacht in 1969. Gerard served in a number of Ministerial positions from 1970 till 1992 including Posts and Telegraphs (now Communications) Justice and Foreign Affairs. He has been the longest serving Minister for Justice in the history of the state. During his time as a TD Gerard was one of the country’s highest poll toppers. Like his father before him Gerard topped the poll in every general election and received the highest percentage of votes in the Country in all six elections between 1981 and 1992. In 1994 Gerard was elected to the European Parliament for the Munster Constituency where he served two terms after being re-elected in 1999. He was leader of the Fianna Fáil group in the parliament and served as Vice President of the European Parliament. Although retired from electoral politics, Gerard continues to play an active role in the party. He is currently Joint Honorary Secretary of the party
I am from the Boston area and interested in local famlies of 18th century Listowel.
I am particularly wondering if anyone can tell me about the Bolton's crossroads area and which Bolton family it is named after.
I descend from a Mr Bolton (perhaps John) who married Mary Justice prior to 1752. His wife's family was descended from Eliott (McEligott?) and Fitzgerald of Castle Lick families. I believe the Boltons of Listowel might have descended from Sir Richard Bolton, the 17th century judge and Chanceller or Ireland, possibly a branch located to Mallow where most of the Justices were living.
I'd appreciate any pointers in the right direction.
Jonah McKenna Moss
HISTORY OF DUAGH
Duagh gets its name form the crossing on the River Feale - Dubh Ath na Féile - and its name suggests a place of pre-Christian worship. Two rivers beautify the landscape that is intensively farmed along the banks of the Feale, and is now heavily forested on the banks of the Smerla. Many of the population are now employed in industrial and service industries in local towns. Two schools meet the educational needs of the parish: one in Lyreacrompane with the other in Duagh.
This Abbey was especially devoted to Brigid and when they founded their church in Duagh they dedicated the parish to their patron saint. Duagh has therefore remained devoted to St. Brigid since medieval times. The first church in Duagh was built near the old village, which was situated near the graveyard - a few ruins of this church still remain in the old graveyard. In 1806 Fr. O' Flaherty built a thatched church at the present site of the village, about half a mile up from the old village David Moriarty blessed the present Church of St. Bngid in 1856. Lyreacrompane s new church opened in 1916 and subsided after a number of years. A new church dedicated to the Sacred Heart was opened in 1956«
The church in Duagh Village is dedicated to St. Brigid. The Parish of Duagh dates back to c. 1200 when the Great Augustinian Abbey of Connell in Kildare was granted '10 carucates of land' in Kerry.
A testament to the faith of the parish over the centuries lies in the finding of the Duagh
Ciborium. This18th century piece of Irish Silver was found in a turf delivered to the Presbytery in 1923 from a bog 5 km away. The parish Priest accidentally found the ciborium concealed in a sod of turf. It had obviously been for safe keeping in the bog during the penal times. It was found in a bog across the Smerla river from a Mass rock. Further testament to that faith is the great number of priests and religious native to the parish working in all five continents. In 1977 up to 40 women and men were actively involved in ministry all over the world. The people of the parish have been very involved in ministry all over the world. More recently the people of the parish have been undertaken .a major refurbishment of the local graveyard.
In 2012 a memorial stone was unveiled in the Graveyard in memory of all who are buried there in the hope of the Resurrection.
Harnett Clan Gathering July 2012
Abbeyfeale .Thanks to Marian Harnett for details.
HARNETT REUNION: The first ever Harnett Reunion weekend got off to a great start with the clouds lifting and the sun finally appearing on Friday morning. There is no truth in the rumour circulating in town that the Harnetts are well in with the Lord since the main organiser of the family reunion, local undertaker James Harnett is the last person you’ll deal with before you go to meet St. Peter and Himself. Mind you the rain returned with a vengeance on Monday morning so wouldn’t it make you wonder!! The Glorach Theatre was the place to be on Friday night for the launch of the Harnett magazine containing articles written by Harnett's from Ireland and abroad, loads of photos, histories of different branches, extracts from the parish registers and much more. It also contained the winning entries from the essay competition which ran in local schools last spring. Well over 100 people turned up to hear Judge of the schools competition, Carina Prendeville launch the magazine which she had also edited. We were treated to sterling performances from Tenor Brian Harnett NCW and the Harnett families band some of whose members went on to win 1st. prize on Saturday in Dungarven in the Munster Fleadh Cheoil. Local poet, Jackie Harnett, a contributer to the book, also took the podium and read a poem written by the late Micheal Harnett. There was a social element to the night with tea, coffee and home baking provided by the Harnett ladies – all of whom are on the committee – Ita, Carina, Hannah, Noreen, Marian, Helen, Bibi, Maura, Irene, Mary, Eileen and Bridget. A total run of 500 magazines were printed by graphic designer Eileen Healy, Feale Print and Design, Cahirlane, they were a brisk trade and a bargain at just €5 each. Multiple copies were sold on the night, with any remaining copies available in Batt Harnett's, The Square. O’ Donoghue's Spar, Convent St. Kathleen's Foodstore, Convent St., Sean Broderick's. New St. and Moss the Farmer's, Killarney Road.. They are in high demand so if you want one to send abroad or to keep as a souvenir then make sure to get one straight away. Highlights in the 119 page book include the story of the nicknames that each Harnett family is known by which won the first prize in the Primary Schools competition and was written by Cian Fox Harnett, family photographs, a letter written by Father Con Harnett after being shipwrecked during World War 1 and an article written by Norma Healy who researched Griffiths Valuation. There is also an article about Harnett County, North Carolina. Saturday morning saw people calling to the Parish Office with their family details to meet with Norma Healy, Dromtrasna who has spent the last few months researching the Harnett families in the area. Searches were carried out and connections made in some cases and in others it became clear that there was more work to do. We met people who drove from Emly in Tipperary just to find out more about their ancestors and a man from Dublin who had two DNA kits with him and was looking for two Harnett men to swab so that he could rule out the different branches and hopefully discover which one he came from. Saturday afternoon local Harnett's, armed with maps manned the three graveyards and took visitors around to show them where their people were buried. Mass at 7pm was for the deceased members of the clan from home and abroad with music, readings, prayers of the faithful, communion reflection etc. provided by family members. Some of the highlights during the presentation of symbols included Sr. Winifred Harnett from the USA via Abbeyfeale who carried a lighted candle representing the light of God that Harnett priests and religious continue to shine in various parts of the world, Sheila Harnett brought her father Larry Ellen's War of Independence hard earned medals for bravery, Nancy Harnett Foley brought up a land lease signed by Maurice Harnett, Kilconlea with the Rev. Conyingham Ellis of Cranbaune, England in 1857 for 22 acres at a yearly rent of 13 pounds and 10 shillings sterling. The Harnetts also managed to create a bit of a stir when one of the visitors got herself locked in the church after Mass and had to be rescued! Everyone then moved down to Fr. Casey's Clubhouse which was beautifully decorated by Mary O’Donoghue for a buffet catered by Ann Kennedy, followed by music from the local Mike Guinane Band and disco with Micheal O’Donnell, Clash. Micheal Harnett from Banbridge, Co. Down who has a company called Harnett Oils and who produces G.M. free rapeseed oil (maybe we’ll have some for sale yet in Abbeyfeale) gave a short presentation on the origins of the name which appears in the Doomsday Book. Mart Manager, Richard Harnett from Castleisland then entertained the 230 plus crowd with a selection of tall tales. The oldest Harnett present was Mrs. Nellie Kelly from Duagh who told us that ladies should never reveal their ages but admitted to nine decades plus. J.J. O’Riordan whose mother is a Harnett was celebrating his 26th birthday and helped to cut the Harnett cake with James Harnett from New Zealand. After the excellent meal local Harnetts met and mingled with family members from the US, New Zealand, England, Northern Ireland, Offaly, Dublin, Cork, Kildare, Kerry, Tipperary and all over Limerick until the late hours. Mike Guinane and his band proved that it was possible to entertain a packed clubhouse without interrupting the flow of conversation, it is a pity that other bands would not follow his lead and keep the sound down to allow people to chat. Connections were made, friendships renewed and the questions on all lips was when would the next reunion be. Sunday morning at 11am, organiser James Harnett took the visitors on a scenic tour of Abbeyfeale parish and at 1.45pm a wreath was laid at the memorial on the Killarney road to Patrick Harnett and Jeremiah Healy who were murdered by the Black and Tans in 1920. Then at 2pm Harnetts gathered at the Town Park for the Happy Harnett Fun Day when a world record was attempted for the number of Harnett's photographed together in one place. They came out in their droves - Mama's and Papa's, Granddaddies and Grandmoms, Aunties and Uncles, Great Grand Uncles and Aunties, Cousins up to four or five times removed, In laws and outlaws, babbies in the pram, boys and girls. The final figure was 243 Harnett's gathered in the hard surface basketball court with several photographers vying for the best shot. Marian Harnett Roche's son Jeremiah provided the music, there were clowns and Donal Ducks, face painting and tattooing for the children along with a goodie bag provided from sponsorship received from local businesses. Ita Harnett O’Connor whose prowess with a spade is legendary turned the first sod and planted a native oak tree to commemorate the weekend, each branch of the family then took the spade and added some soil. The sun shone and it was heaven on earth – fun, friendship, goodwill and promises to meet again and keep in touch. Those who weren’t rushing to make trains or planes adjourned to Matt McCoys Bar where owner Thomas Mann had provided music and finger food to round off a perfect weekend. Everyone who was there will have their own favourite memories but highlights for me personally, a blow in, were seeing young Ross Harnett proudly step up to the microphone on Friday night and proclaim “ I am a Harnett and proud of my name, like my father before me” and listening to Brian Harnett sing Nessun Dorma. A memory from Saturday night is our special Stephen who is a fine jiver dancing with his mom and presenting James's daughter with a teddy bear. He was the first Harnett to be counted in to stand for the picture on Sunday too. Another memory is from Sunday in the Town Park with the sun splitting the stones, in the midst of children running around having mock fights with balloons and screaming with delight in the playground the speech that Ita Harnett O’Connor – the oldest member of the organising committee - made before she set the oak tree, a speech that resonated with all those present. She said “It is a great privilege to be chosen to plant this tree to commemorate the occasion of the first Harnett/Hartnett gathering here in Abbeyfeale. When we plant a tree it is for the next generation. Trees are like humans, they have a past, a present and a future. They are alive, they breathe and they live. You can make a wish on a tree and the wish I hope for on this occasion is for all of us but especially for our young people who are the future generations. I hope that it will be a better world, a better Europe and a better Ireland for all of us. In fact, I would like to call this the Tree of Hope. I wish too that we will all get a chance to return to visit the tree and take the opportunity it offers to rest awhile under it's branches from the elements of sun, wind and rain, shade from which it willingly gives to man, bird and beast. The way forward may not be in looking back but we must look back to appreciate the legacy that the people gone before us have left in the pure earth and how they worked to maintain it, they minded the land, we were always told mind the land and the land will mind you. Those people that gave us life, reared and nurtured us, minded their businesses, professions and trades. They taught us our prayers, morals and manners and to be the resilient people we are today. I’ll conclude now with a poem that I remember from my school days. It was written by Joyce Kilmer and is called Trees. I think that I shall never see a poem lovely as a tree/ A tree whose hungry mouth is prest against the sweet earths flowing breast/ A tree that looks at God all day, and lifts her leafy arms to pray;/ A tree that may in summer wear a nest of robins in her hair; / Upon whose bosom snow has lain; who intimately lives with rain. / Poems are made by fools like me but only God can make a tree.” Other highlights were meeting Susan Harnett from Dublin who on seeing signs on the outskirts of Abbeyfeale as she passed through on her way to Valentia contacted her father and brothers and came to join in the Happy Harnett Fun Day. Her grandfather was the first Veterinary Surgeon appointed to the Irish Government – they are connected to the Parnell Harnetts . We also met Helen and Mayo from California, cousins whose great grandmother Elizabeth Harnett emigrated from Purt to live with her aunt who was expecting her first baby in the early 1900's. When she arrived in Southern California after a journey of several weeks, her aunt and the baby had died and the distraught husband had moved away and so she was totally on her own knowing no one and with no where to turn. She slept that first night in a church where she met a servant girl with whom she shared her story and with that girls help she was able to find work. Elizabeth went on to marry and raise four children all of whom received a college education as have her 12 grandchildren because she always espoused the value of education and hard work. Helen distributed copies of the late Elizabeth's memory card to ensure that she too would be remembered at the Gathering. Then there was the successful business man from up the country who on looking down at the Feale meandering along through the scenic landscape of West Limerick/ North Kerry said that this beautiful place should be entered in the Europe in Bloom competition. He went on to say that Abbeyfeale people have a wonderful town which should be marketed. He continued” how many towns are a gateway to an area like Killarney and West Kerry that is famous all over the world, have a park with such facilities, access to the Southern Trail, a theatre, buses on the hour, an airport half an hour away and a second one with international flights just over an hour away, a hotel, a hostel, several bed and breakfasts, restaurants, coffee and tea shops. On hearing how close we are to Ballybunion with its world class golf links as well as an unspoiled blue flag beach and that we have a driving range with a 9/18 hole golf course a couple of minutes up the Hill, a horse riding school, a go karting track, St. Ita's Hall with billards and snooker and a Youth Cafe, a Sli na Slainte 6.8 km marked walk, GAA, Rugby, Soccer pitches all with their own clubhouses, a sport and leisure hall, a handball alley, not to mention a vibrant fishing club and a weekly Farmers’ Market he as good as said that we must be mad not to be making use of what we have and attracting in tourists in our own right.
Hello, and Happy New Year. My Dillanes were from Listowel and Duagh: David Dillane, born sometime around 1805, who married Mary o'Leary, born about the same time. They arrived in the US during the Famine, in 1848. The children who survived the voyage included a Patrick, Michael, Timothy, Edmund, Catherine and Margaret, with birthdates from 1830 thru 1848.
David's children stated that they were from Listowel. At least 2 of his children were baptized in Duagh and at least two were baptized in Listowel, Lower Dromid. It may be that Mary O'Leary was from Duagh, and that is why some of her chlldren were baptized there, or it may be that these Dillanes had roots in both Duagh and Listowel.
After entering the US David's family spent some 6 years in Pittsburgh, then went west to Dubuque Iowa, where they settled.
Marriage of David Dillane of Furhane and Mary Leary, Lixnaw parish 27 Jan 1829. Witnesses Timothy Leary and Michael Dillane.
That's the right time frame, since the 1st recorded baptism was of their son Patrick in Duagh, 30 March 1830.
We (in Australia) had always thought our great-grandmother was Julia Dillon.
Jer has sent information that shows that in 3 out of 4 baptismal records of her children, the name was spelt Dillane.
Her husband Daniel left for Australia in 1861, and I think she might have moved to Pallas for that reason and had the last child Patrick baptized there.
Sadly, Patrick died before she left to join her husband in Australia in 1865.
She took 4 children: Mathew, Honora, Johanna and Daniel, by herself by tall ship to Australia. (I can't find a record of Johanna's baptism).
I am trying to find the death date of Jeremiah Buckley in Listowel. At one
time he was the assistant registrar for Listowel and signed many documents. He
also ran a draper's shop in Listowel. He is in the 1901 census in Listowel
with his wife, Frances Flaherty, and some of his children. I could not find
him in 1911 but did not have much time to search. He was born in late 1835 and
was the son of Daniel and Mary Collins Buckley of Coolkeragh. He was my
Another interesting find on your photo site. There is a photo of the Dore/Dower
family tree. I have this exact page which was given to me by my uncle,
Jimmy Hickey. It's a photo copy, just like the picture, but mine also has the
handwritten notes at the bottom of the page, just like your photo. They are not
quite exact, but whoever wrote those notes at the bottom of your page, also
wrote them on my copy. Yours has additional handwritten notes in the middle,
while my copy does not.
I also have a copy of a letter written by Fr. Denis O'Brien entiled "The
Abbeyfeale Connection" regarding the O'Briens of Purt. If you're interested,
I can forward you a copy.
My grandmother was Bridget Dower, daughter of William Dower (1823-?) (census records
have his listed as Dore) and Hanora O'Brien of Purt(1842-1934). They are listed on the
Dower family tree that I referenced.
Hanora was his second wife. He was married to Esther Cronin and they had 8 children that I know of. When Esther
died, William married my great-grandmother, Hanora in 1876, and they had 8 children. I have a photo of my
great-grandmother probably taken in 1930 and a couple of photos of my grandmother on her farm.
I wrote that my grandmother's brother Con Dower emigrated to Australia in 1930. This is not correct.
He emigrated around 1900, as did his brother David Dower. The newspaper photo I have was taken
in Australia in 1930. He met and married his wife after he arrived in Australia and all his children were born
and raised in Australia.
. There are a lot of Dowers in
Australia, and I have made contact with them and shared my information with them.
I also found a church bulletin on your site about my Uncle Jimmy Hickey's death:
Death occurred recently of Jimmy Hickey Rathoran he was a great preserver of local history his knowledge was greatly appreciated by his many friends.
When my uncle visited the USA, he was very happy that I had an interest in the
family history and gave me all his information.
of Glin, NW Co.Limerick near Tarbert border with N Co.Kerry,
mar Mary Patt [bapt 17 September 1835],
they lived Glin,
she corresponded with The O'Rahilly about family tree, c.1905-10,
she (rather than her emigrated dau) must be the "Mary Barrett" that James Patrick Ryan met when he visited Ireland 1907,
(todo) see birth of John Barrett, Glin, 1865, [GROI], vol 10, p 305,
(todo) see death of John Barrett, Glin, 1866, age 1, [GROI], vol 10, p 182,
(todo) try birth of John Barrett, Glin, 1869, [GROI], vol 15, p 265,
Lizzie Barrett [think NOT Kitty],
mar Dan Kearney [of Moyvane, nr Listowel, Co.Kerry],
think she fl c.1982.
Tom Barrett, mar Mary Hanley and had issue:
James C. Barrett, educ Boston,
mar his 2nd cousin Hannah McCoy,
they needed dispensation to marry since they were cousins,
he inherited her family house, Main St, Glin,
they ran family pub "The Central Bar", on ground floor, lived above it,
he was a County Councillor, Limerick County Council,
his 1st cousin Mary Jacobson (née Whelan) visited him c.1982, he gave her family tree info,
he died c.1982-7,
Hannah died c.1st Jan 1987,
family pub is now called "The Rale McCoy" Bar and Lounge (or "The Real McCoy"), Main St, Glin,
Kitty Barrett, mar Patrick McCoy and had issue:
Paddy Barrett, mar Siobhan Collins and had issue:
Stephen Barrett, mar Margaret Clarke.
John Barrett, mar Maureen Lyons and had issue:
Margaret Barrett, mar Gerry Johnstone.
Olive Barrett, mar John Mulvihill and had issue:
Jim Barrett, mar Lorna Joyce and had issue:
Thomas Barrett, mar Anita McMahon and had issue:
Breda Barrett, mar Michael Quaid.
emig to US with sister Kate pre-1886,
they settled in Muskegon, Michigan, where their aunt Ellen was,
poss. parish housekeeper,
poss. connection with convent (poss. Little Sisters of the Poor) in Grand Rapids, Michigan,
think died without issue and is bur with her aunt and uncle Ryan in St.Mary's cemetery, Muskegon, Michigan.
Kate Barrett [Katherine],
emig to US with sister Mary pre-1886,
when came to New York they stayed with their Hickie cousins who were living there (in New York), while they decided whether to go to Avon, Illinois, to their aunt Anna or to Muskegon, Michigan, to their aunt Ellen (her old school teacher), they decided to go to Muskegon,
mar Edward Whelan [Irish family, his family came from Waterford],
he was born on Washington Island, "where a lot of Irish settled as fishermen",
this must be Washington Island, Wisconsin, on Lake Michigan,
she died 1930,
he died 1937,
John Whelan, born 1893, must be after grandfather,
died in hospital, Long Beach, CA, 1953, age 60 yrs,
think at the Veterans Affairs (VA) hospital, Long Beach,
which would mean he served in US military,
mar and think had issue:
Vincent Whelan, died age 12 yrs.
Mary Whelan, must be after grandmother,
mar --- Jacobson,
lived Racine, S of Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
he died June 1964,
she researched family tree, corresponded with Richard Emmet Ryan about family tree since 1969, visited Ireland c.1982,
fl 1987, think died 1990,
Marianne Jacobson, mar James Anheuser and had issue:
Colleen Anheuser, mar Michael Meehan and had issue:
Tim Anheuser, mar Julie Rennebohm and had issue:
Amy Anheuser, mar William Goldstein and had issue:
Margaret Anheuser, mar H. Stephen Desmond and had issue:
NSW Legislative Assembly
Premier Kristina Keneally MP
Premier of New South Wales
Premier and Minister for Redfern Waterloo.
Like 40% of the people who live in the electorate of Heffron, Kristina
Keneally was born overseas. She is married to Ben Keneally and has two sons,
Daniel (11 years old) and Brendan (9 years old). She lives in Pagewood in
Sydney’s inner south.
The child of an Australian mother and an American father, Kristina was born
on 19 December 1968 and grew up in the United States. She moved to Sydney in
1994, and married Ben in 1996. Kristina became an Australian citizen in
Kristina studied at the University of Dayton in Ohio. She holds a BA in
Political Science (Hons) and an MA in Religious Studies.
Kristina has also worked as the NSW Youth Coordinator for the Society of St
Vincent de Paul and taught in a ‘teacher shortage area’ in rural New Mexico.
Prior to her election to NSW Parliament, Kristina was a full time mum to her
sons. Like many other mothers, she now enjoys the challenge of balancing
work and family life.
Kristina was elected to Parliament on 22 March 2003. Here she has delivered
new Metro bus services, had trucks diverted from Botany road, and worked
hard to get new facilities for local public schools.
On 2 April 2007, Kristina became Minister for Ageing and Minister for
Disability Services. Here she continued to deliver Stronger Together Part
One, the largest increase in disability services funding in the history of
In 2008, Kristina was the NSW Government Spokesperson for World Youth Day,
helping to successfully deliver the year’s biggest global event after the
Olympics. World Youth Day included some 225,000 visitors and up to 400,000
attendees, spanning six days and multiple venues across Sydney.
On 8 September 2008, Kristina became Minister for Planning and Minister for
Redfern Waterloo. Here she focused on urban renewal, land supply and
supporting the Government’s plans to create jobs closer to where people
live. Over the past 15 months, she has overseen the Government’s major
project system, which has supported over 66,000 jobs and almost $23 billion
in economic investment. She has activated the independent Planning
Assessment Commission. She has led the Government’s development of the 22
hectare waterfront precinct in Sydney’s CBD, Barangaroo. She has approved
the concept plans for the North Eveleigh and the Pemulwuy project, which
will improve Aboriginal Housing on ‘The Block’ in Redfern. Kristina added
Minister for Infrastructure to her portfolio on 17 November 2009.
On the 4th of December 2009 she was sworn in as NSW’s first female Premier.
Parliament House, Macquarie Street, Sydney
Luke Foley MLC and Johno Johnson invite you to attend a dinner to celebrate
the 100th anniversary of the first New South Wales Labor Government where we
will also be celebrating the 155th anniversary of Labor Day.
On 21 October 1910, the first State Labor Ministry was sworn in, with Jim
McGowen as Premier.
Labor was able to form Government after winning 46 of 90 seats at the 1910
Our guests of honour include The Hon Neville Wran AC QC, The Hon Barrie
Unsworth, The Hon Bob Carr, The Hon Morris Iemma, The Hon Nathan Rees MP and
the keynote address will be delivered by the Hon Kristina Keneally MP,
Premier of New South Wales.
Please book early as seating is available for 300 – so don't be
Parking at Parliament House is available. Those with a mobility permit can
park for free, otherwise the cost is $25 per car, which must be paid in
advance. The driver's name and license plate is required.
Time: Friday 29 October 2010, 7pm sharp
Where: Parliament House, Macquarie Street, Sydney.
For further information please call Patrick Collins on 0400 843 412, or
Johno Johnson on 0419 243 285.
LANDLORD’S LAWN TO TOWN PARK
The history of the fields or the ‘Cows Lawn’ as they are colloquially known, began when Richard Hare purchased the lands of the 3rd Earl of Kerry. In 1783 the 3rd Earl of Kerry, Francis Thomas Fitzmaurice sold his entire estate of 30,000 acres in North Kerry, most of which came into the possession of Richard Hare, ‘then of the city of Cork, Esquire’.
The 3rd Earl had gone to live in Paris after accumulating gambling debts. His stay was cut short by the French Revolution, and in 1792 he and his wife were forced to flee back to England. The Kerry Evening Post of July 19 1911 tells us that ‘the Earl got out of Paris with great difficulty, leaving all his plate, pictures, furniture and papers behind him in charge of two faithful servants. The Government of the Terror guillotined the servants and seized all the property’. He had the forethought to arrange that his papers would not fall into the same hands and they are currently stored in the National Archives in Paris. We learn from these documents the protracted dealing between Fitzmaurice and Hare, until the lands in question were legally transferred into the name of Hare.
The Earl had been the first Fitzmaurice for six hundred years to be an absentee landlord, appearing to be only interested in the money the estate brought in, to support his lavish lifestyle initially in Bath & London. According to the papers stored in Paris, there was continuous difficulty in getting rents paid regularly, for example in 1774 out of a rent roll of £5.124 only £1.034 was paid . In 1776 Arthur Young was shocked at the condition of the place: ‘Everything around lies in ruin and the house itself is going fast off by the thieving depredations of the neighborhood’.
Finally the UDC and a number of other prominent citizens formed the Sinn Fein Food Committee with a view to acquiring this land as tillage. There was a general feeling of frustration building up with the petty restrictions and the number of permissions which had to be sought from Lord Listowel.. ‘Negotiations’ were opened by Sinn Fein with two local men who had permission to graze the Lawn at the time, in order that the Food Committee might proceed with their aims of turning the ground into tillage. It would appear that ‘negotiations’ might be a misnomer, something that rankled with the families concerned in the following years.
Getting tired of waiting for permission, the Food Committee with the help of Volunteers from Moyvane, Knockanure, Finuge, Rathea, Ballyconry and Ballylongford, ploughed up the ‘front and back lawns’ concerned on 25 February 1918. The members of the Committee were jailed for a month on May 23rd, while the Chairman of the County Council, Jack McKenna spent almost a year in Belfast Jail on this and other alleged charges.
While they were still in jail, Lord Listowel instructed the agent to sell the disputed land to Thomas Armstrong proprietor of the NKM Sweet Factory for £1,400.which was then five times the market value of such land. Armstrong then offered the land at the same price to the Food Committee and they had no option but to pay this sum.. The deed drawn up was between Thomas Armstrong and ‘The Listowel Food Committee/The Listowel Cow Keepers/The Trustees, which was later to cause legal problems. ‘The conveyance of 1920 was made to Dr. O’Connor, Mr. Launders, Mr. McKenna, Mr. Walsh, Mr. Gleeson and Mr. Flavin. ‘The front lawn was divided amongst twenty people, each of whom have the right to graze one cow in perpetuity; and the back lawn was divided amongst twenty eight poor people for tillage purposes’
The ‘two fields’ of thirty acres in total, were mainly in grass, bounded on all sides by woods with the river flowing alongside. The former tennis court was left in place with a right of way into it and it continued be used as a Tennis Club . However it was 1935 before the first Catholic was admitted to the Club.
Listowel Urban Council continued the quest to attain ownership of the public areas surrounding the town and in 1946 Lord Listowel granted Gurtinard Wood and a beautiful walk to the people of Listowel for a nominal sum of £5.00.
The tillage so fiercely fought for, did not stay in use after a few years but the twenty cow keepers continued their right to graze their cows, on what was now known as The Cows Lawn until 1966. The author remembers some of these ‘Cow Keepers’ exercising this right and in fact milking cows on the Lawn and bringing the milk up the Bridge Road in galvanised buckets, swinging off the handlebars of their bikes
Comment on Gerald O Carroll’s book on the Fitzgerald’s published March 2014 .
Dromana, at a bend in the Blackwater River, is the seat of the Waterford (Decies) FitzGeralds, from whom descend the Villiers Stuarts.
We are surrounded by Fitzgeralds in Youghal - a crest in St. Marys dates back to 1464 when they built the College to provide priests for the church, the Boyles married into the Fitzgerald family as did the Villiers, the familiar X on the shield is everywhere - so this book is a welcome history of a very famous family which origins back to the Ghirardini in Florence, and moving across France to England and Wales - where Giraldus Cambrensis (Gerald of Wales) account of the conquest of Ireland is still studied, and the enormous swathes of land they conquered - some 600, 000 acres in Munster alone, stretching from Youghal to the far west of County Kerry! A great read .... but I would love to pick his brains about the tomb of Ellis Barry here in Youghal and would also love to hear more of Katherine Fitzgerald - the Olde Countess . This is a fine piece of scholarship, well researched , nicely illustrated and a good read! Enjoy. (Kieran Groeger, MA, PhD, St Mary’s College, Youghal.
The Tralee Chronicle Newspaper , March 11th 1864, the 8th Annual Meeting of the Abbeydorney Ploughing Society took place on Wednesday 3rd in a field belonging to Mr Mason, Ahamore when 13 ploughs appeared on the field, belonging to the following parties; 2 from W. Talbot Crosbie, Esq., Ardfert Abbey; 2 from Mr W Todd, Ballysheen; 1 from Mr Watson, Lismaurice; 1 from Mr William Sheahan, Ballysheen; 1 from Mrs Shanahan, Tubrid; 1 from Mr Lunham, Lismore; 1 from Mr O'Creagh, Dromartin; 1 from Mr P Healey, Killahan; 1 from Mr Solomon Egan, Aulane Ban; 1 from Mr M Crowley, Clounametig; 1 from Mr J leslie Clounametig.
The prize winners were as follows; First prize - William Sheahan, Ballysheen. Second prize - Patrick O'Mahony, (ploughing for Mrs. Shanahan, Tubrid). Third prize - Dan Buckley, (ploughing for William Todd, Ballysheen). Fourth prize - John Egan (son of Solomon Egan, Aulane Ban). Fifth prize - Patrick Healey, Killahan.